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Post by darkchaos10 on Feb 4, 2010 15:55:49 GMT -5
Hm... ok... Also try not to double-/triple-/multi-post so much, use edit instead.
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Post by krazybuilder on Feb 4, 2010 16:09:20 GMT -5
I realised I should have done that sorry. A bit late now -.- .
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Post by darkchaos10 on Feb 4, 2010 16:16:46 GMT -5
The only way I could find to make 3 outputs is by using 2 of those "IF" gates. Like so:
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I hope it is understandable, if not, I will make it more clear what to put where.
Edit: I was able to make another kind of "laser latch" with the if switch used the other way around. 1 and 0 refer to passage of the laser.
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Edit 2: Made the constant laser better XD:
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Post by whoknows on Feb 4, 2010 17:11:59 GMT -5
The IF gate works as a latch you know o.o...
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Post by darkchaos10 on Feb 4, 2010 17:14:33 GMT -5
Well... I do know, but it only blocks flow if you put the laser from the other side!
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Post by whoknows on Feb 4, 2010 17:36:10 GMT -5
o.o You could just flip the whole thing....
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Post by FoxtrotZero on Feb 4, 2010 20:06:37 GMT -5
I heard you're AND gates are getting unreliable?
I noticed this myself when i was trying to use some AND gates, when they all started malfunctioning. I can get them insanely more reliable, at the expense of only several pixels of space.
As for a timed-beat clockwork mechanism as far as laser goes, i don't know that it's possible, but if I am correct, i know how to create an uninterrupted flow.
Other than that, can anyone think of anything of use for me to attempt, because i'm Foxtrot-Delta on ideas.
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Post by miczu on Feb 5, 2010 5:37:36 GMT -5
Nice to see some devices getting reinvented Let start with thunder changing metal mirror and changing path of laser. -It work best if thunder is really dense - that is hard to get at load and hard to make small laser to thunder and thunder to laser devices. Well the best way to test all the gates is to make an half-adder and full-adder. Using clock for synchronization is probably the future for those not perfect devices. Simple clock can be made from any XOR gate like: 0030000000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu0Jm00x00T0Bo00o1x00Ax0Ow1.q1zT0Bp1w11u125u1tu2701h029*1s02A*1n02C01r*2Ds00w1xw0BT2H000z00y0Jo2HT0By1.T0Bx1.w2M10Mn2O000.1.z1.v2Tu0Bq2VT0Mr1xu2J01wy0Jq2Vt00n1.x2Z00*t2Op1yT0A01xq2nq0Bz2kw2Oo2aT2uo0Bn2L12602Ev0Tx1wT2Py0Jr2Vq2iT23T1z00Ey0Jn32T0Bs33o0Sy2Nw1.r2W12ys2Vn3Eu28*2B*2Bm00s01m2i00Kn1vs3Mn0in3P100m3N*0Pn3Sm3U*0Sn3Sq2d12o.00p2Yz3ZT0Lq0B.3cT2RT3YT23x3eu01q39p1.t1.y3on21x3l12or3h01z.3sq3R10Mm3L10AT3f03O13ys3mT3**3V14113.u3m040u0Bm3zq3aq3xu49s42u47*44u4D14612o*4G03Ts4E14J*3Y145q4B04804L14Iq4C04Sq4Q*4Km4AT43*4Ou4Hq4W*4a04VT4Z00Dn3w03L90fo2i14PT4fv4ku4bT4mn4h*4Xs4Mq4Um4Yu4F*4dm3zm3X04g145m4yv4n04Sm4*n0FT0Gr3Q048T0fu0QT57u53X0ft5800Cu5C*0Hu5E*0Bu5G00Eu5305Du5K*5Fu5M*5Hu5O05J10ET5915S05L15U*5N15W*5P12y*3J*2D*5b02F05ev1qv5gu1pu5i15a*5c*5l05fu5ju3I*5mv5h15k05n15sv5ru5p05tu5wv5v02zu5o05.15uu5**5dv5z*63u0w*07104168*67w0A0lA5 PS. Couldn't find any better xor gate, but it will do the trick :F
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Post by darkchaos10 on Feb 5, 2010 5:44:48 GMT -5
That is good, but it has one problem, output, it doesn't output anything(or at least nothing that I can find use of)
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Post by FoxtrotZero on Feb 5, 2010 9:49:19 GMT -5
Well, I have a compact Thunder to Laser system, compliments of VIROS, if i recall. Or Vacon. I do not remember. I'll have to acquire these some time...
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Post by krazybuilder on Feb 5, 2010 18:45:18 GMT -5
Are my little things I've been posting noobish? I can't really infer from your posts what you think of them?
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Post by miczu on Feb 8, 2010 13:58:25 GMT -5
Ok, here is something new. It's first electronic use for ball's.
I call this technology a "fuse" - it allow to laser go normally when it's good, but one you burn the fuse, the connection is broken.
It can be seen also as some kind of one time switch or memory.
Good points: - elastic - you can to a single "fuse" add many laser routes (burning all at the same time) - great number of ways to burn a "fuse" - no predefined input - different sides of a "fuse" are burn when you use thunder or a laser. - "fuse" burn by laser block laser that goes truth ball part, but it becomes transparent for laser after burning (or after burning again) by thunder.
Bad sides: - relatively big - if you use it for a single laser route, there are better ways to do it. - route burning have sometimes long delay after burning with thunder.
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Post by microfarad on Feb 8, 2010 20:34:54 GMT -5
It's like a tube except it can only be used once. Kinda neat but not at all useful, the same thing could be acheived with regular ice.
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Post by miczu on Feb 9, 2010 8:13:45 GMT -5
Well water ball is little more reactive, but it is good idea to make it smaller :F
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Post by microfarad on Feb 9, 2010 20:58:31 GMT -5
Foxtrot, I beleive you wanted a pulsing device, here is one with questionable reliability, the concept however is proven. (Attached) Attachments:
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Post by krazybuilder on Feb 10, 2010 17:10:02 GMT -5
what we need is a completely unreactive building material (Like C4, torch, metal, but reacting with NOTHING). It must also negate when a reactions happen through materials .
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Post by Vertigo on Feb 10, 2010 18:20:08 GMT -5
what we need is a completely unreactive building material (Like C4, torch, metal, but reacting with NOTHING). It must also negate when a reactions happen through materials . I never knew what anybody was speaking of when they said they needed an un-reactive building material. Wouldn't block suffice?
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Post by whoknows on Feb 10, 2010 19:35:35 GMT -5
Block is too large and you can only place it in every 4x4 block... We need one that is 1x1 pixel large...
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Post by miczu on Feb 11, 2010 10:04:45 GMT -5
There is a request for it, but all we can do, is to wait for good update... There are a lot of elements requested and some are better, but chance that we will get them soon... No comment.
We can only try to make best of what we have...
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Post by droctagonapus on Mar 15, 2010 17:55:29 GMT -5
i made a simple laser source, that is continuous, predictable, and does not use clone or clone ball. instead it uses mecury and glass. it does not need to have an input to start it(glass is used for this) but an input for turning it iff can easily be added. 0032000000100*02102*01*03*06*05*01w00q00004000v00u01u0B*0200Du0F00Cv0E10E00Ku0J*0Hv0Lu0G*0Bv0Q00N10M*0Pu0O*0Su0X00I10V*0Y10b00au0R00e00Uu0fv0T*0W10dv0j*0cu0iu0Zv0m00g*0ku0o10lu0pu0v10u10xu0tu0z00h00**0s010*0n01200r*13*11*17*16*1901501Bv0qv1Du0wu0.*1801Cu1F014v1E10y01Ku1J*1Hv1Lu1G*1Av1Q01N11M*1Pu1O*1Su1X01I11V*1Y11b01au1R01e01Uu1fv1T*1W11dv1j*1cu1iu1Zv1m01g*1ku1o11lu1pu1v11u11xu1tu1z01h01**1s020*1n02201r*23*21*27*26*2902502Bv1qv2Du1wu1.*2802Cu2F024v2E11y02Ku2J*2Hv2Lu2G*2Av2Q02N12M*2Pu2O*2Su2X02I12V*2Y12b02au2R02e02Uu2fv2T*2W12dv2j*2cu2iu2Zv2m02g*2ku2o12lu2pu2v12u12xu0.w00x00T0Bp2*00Dy0Jv2.T00X00r31u00y0Jw2.X30X0Sy39x35000o31w3810Mw3A000c00f35c0Bu3Hu0Bw3Jo2*o35T0Bt3O000w3Jp3ET3Ty33x2*X0AT3C13Ix31T3F03Vy2wu2t*0710413k*3jw0A0hP5 EDIT: yes i know it does not output as aofen as would be nive, but this can by fixed with some or's
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