KuraiOorora
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Post by KuraiOorora on Nov 26, 2009 12:31:55 GMT -5
We've been recently told by TheListo himself that the chat is to be taken away because of the intolerable behavior seen by potential members of the forum. Whether he will keep this promise, I am not sure...
Point being, the main result I believe that Devin has given forewarning of such an action is because certain topics are being put onto the chat that are uninviting and potentially traumatizing to visitors of the forum as well as the chat, yet there have been no rules placed on these specific topics. The rules I propose that should be placed along with the other live chat rules, which could also be placed in the normal forum rules are as follows: 1. "Posting images that are depicting any form of Hentai, such as guro, yuri, or any other form are strictly prohibited. It is also prohibited to even discuss such topics on the live chat as well as the forum."
2. "Any images depicting extreme examples of violence, gore, or any other type of bodily dismemberment are strictly prohibited."
3. "The discussion of topics, namely sexual and political, are advised to be kept away from live chat or at most kept to a limited but RESTRICTED discussion."
Feel free to comment on your opinions of these proposed rules, or even give ideas on how they can be improved...
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Post by xShadowLordx on Nov 26, 2009 14:09:54 GMT -5
1. There is already a rule against porn. Hentai is a form of porn, therefore it is not allowed.
2. I agree, not much else to say.
3. I agree. I'm sick of the immature sexual references on chat. It needs to stop.
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Post by KuraiOorora on Nov 26, 2009 14:12:44 GMT -5
There is also the case of guro, which can sometimes not be extreme violence but can be a depiction of decaying corpses or someone bleeding profusely. I suggest we also place a rule on it, considering it isn't pornography...
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Post by xShadowLordx on Nov 26, 2009 18:09:47 GMT -5
Exactly, guro would fall into #2.
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Post by GGoodie on Nov 26, 2009 18:10:08 GMT -5
LOL is listo that much of a drama-queen? Whenever someone posts anything even close to porn, he takes the chat away. Frankly, if you guys want to limit the discussion of sexually related topics, then you are too. If someone doesn't like a conversation on chat, there's this new technique ive developed called scrolling up.
And also, really, political? You want to ban political conversations? wtf?
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Post by xShadowLordx on Nov 26, 2009 18:34:17 GMT -5
That's the I only thing I don't agree with, prohibiting political conversations. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
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Post by KuraiOorora on Nov 26, 2009 22:18:14 GMT -5
Perhaps not politics, although that type of discussion can get way out of hand at sometimes, but maybe something such a religion?
And GGoodie, TheListo is acting in such a way because potential members of the forum have complained. Numerous times as a matter of fact. Mostly it is because of the ill-topics being discussed in the first place.
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Post by GGoodie on Nov 27, 2009 1:41:02 GMT -5
we are not censoring religious topics... if its not against forum rules we are not making new rules against it.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 27, 2009 2:00:01 GMT -5
LOL is listo that much of a drama-queen? Whenever someone posts anything even close to porn, he takes the chat away. Frankly, if you guys want to limit the discussion of sexually related topics, then you are too. To the extent of my knowledge, TheListo has only removed chat once: I removed it two or three times, and had urges to remove it on many other occasions. Technically, I would be the one deserving of your derogatory title whereas TheListo is actually being realistic about the situation. Anyhow, as much as I would love supporting new rules, the currently existing ones don't seem to be doing any good, although my mere presence sometimes kills or injures such taboo discussion. Either we need to be better with prescribing retribution, or we need to remove chat. There might be other alternatives, but I cannot think of any as of now...
Religion and politics should be alright so long as they aren't used in a demeaning manner, and we already have a rule for covering abuse of labels (three strikes and you get 20% on the forums). Flaming is also covered in its own rule. The only problem is the explicit, pedestrian discussion of sexually oriented topics in a manner that borders upon abusive. Chatters who want to be so free as to show pornographic imagery should go to a site made for such discussion (i.e. a pornographic site). Technically, those who want to really discuss religion or politics should also go to matching websites (i.e. religiously oriented and politically oriented sites respectively) while this site should be reserved for discussion about all things Dan-Ball. We are an official site, and with that title comes responsibility, such as keeping our name clean...
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Post by vaconcovat on Nov 27, 2009 5:34:23 GMT -5
I agree. We shouldn't really BAN politic discussions, but don't let them get out of hand.
And we should try to encourage Dan-ball related discussion. I find that this site is getting too general.
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Post by GGoodie on Nov 27, 2009 11:21:55 GMT -5
Im on chat all the time and the worst things that i ever see is TBP posting guro...
Also, the forum is for discussing dan-ball, but the chat is for discussing dan-ball and for other stuff people want to talk about. People dont want to talk about dan-ball enough to keep a chat active.
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Post by KuraiOorora on Nov 28, 2009 21:32:33 GMT -5
Either way, the posting of guro has to stop, and further action should not be so lenient...
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Post by xShadowLordx on Nov 28, 2009 21:42:25 GMT -5
As I said earlier, number 1 is already covered. I would like to make a motion to approve rules 2 and 3.
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Post by KuraiOorora on Nov 28, 2009 22:30:30 GMT -5
Very well... Is there anyone that would like to second that motion?
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Post by GGoodie on Nov 29, 2009 0:57:43 GMT -5
no
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Post by xShadowLordx on Nov 29, 2009 2:27:23 GMT -5
By the way, that motion does not include the "political" part of rule 3. Sorry I didn't make that clear.
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Post by Qwerty on Nov 29, 2009 17:59:02 GMT -5
I feel that we should ADD these to the ALREADY EXISTING chat rules. We don't want to get rid of the old ones.
But yes, I approve all these. So I second the motion.
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Post by V.I.R.O.S. on Nov 29, 2009 21:13:11 GMT -5
Here is my opinion on this: TheListo neats to GTFO of the forums if he isn't going to actually post here. He can't just toss all the responsibility to his oh so trusted Co-Owners, and then come in here and go around making new rules to fix what he doesn't like. If he hands all the responsibility of this site to someone else, they get all the power to make their own rules. I am tired of getting messages from 3rd parties, and not hearing it directly from him. Either GV and G are the owners and Listo takes no part in our staff, or Listo can come back and take care of the forums himself. He can't get rid of all the responsibility and keep all the powers.
P.S. DO NOT try to give me a warning for flaming. I said ONE rude thing in that entire message, which was GTFO. I can expect that one of you is going to take my criticism of our FORMER site owner and blow it out of proportion, giving me a warning for a single rude thing in the whole message.
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Post by GGoodie on Nov 29, 2009 21:16:29 GMT -5
amen brother
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Post by Qwerty on Nov 29, 2009 21:59:44 GMT -5
Meh, nothing to say there.
We do need to make a new chat, though. It's long overdue to have one we have access to.
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