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Post by microfarad on Apr 2, 2010 8:29:36 GMT -5
The Chat still says "Purportedly Official Chat" and now the title says "Officially Official". You guys are all idiots. If Ha55i has a cow then we will no longer be the Official Dan Ball Forums, but look... Ha55i has not had a cow yet as far as I've heard, he seems fine with the whole dealio, in fact he probably likes having an English Forum about his games with the title Official plastered all over it, as a marketing campaign for his Java games. Innocent until proven guilty, Official until Ha55i has cow.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 2, 2010 8:52:17 GMT -5
I doubt Ha55ii has ever even seen this site...
And Just because no one has denied it doesn't make it true. Calling this forum Official when it isn't would be a lie in everyone of our advertisements. Plus, if thats the case, then we should work on making it official, not just saying it is.
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Post by nmagain on Apr 2, 2010 9:00:29 GMT -5
Listo must talk with Ha55ii about this or this argument will last forever.
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Post by disabled on Apr 2, 2010 10:31:08 GMT -5
Listo must talk with Ha55ii about this Thank god he speaks better japanese then you and me... oh wait...
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Apr 2, 2010 20:35:46 GMT -5
I can't link you to them simply because they are outdated. They no longer constitute proof.
Yes, I do want others to know it is official. That's why we have Project DB-PAL: Contacting Ha55ii personally. Until it is complete, neither side will have proof, and as such this discussion is going nowhere.
It's not that noone has denied it. It's that the people that denied it in the past were proven wrong. Why Listo isn't doing it this time, I can only guess.
Disabled, why is is so hard to believe that Listo doesn't know anyone that speaks Japanese? Or maybe Ha55ii doesn't know anyone that speaks English?
Anyway, I know of a case exactly like this: Block Action Community Vs. Diago. Yes, his name is spelled that way. He spoke English, the creator of the game spoke Japanese and possibly German. People naturally doubted him. The forum was hosted off-site. Eventually, something very similar to DB-PAL passed, and they got a link on the site.
Now, imagine how silly you'll all look when DB-PAL is done?
I have to go for a week, so save your counter-arguments until I return. I'm not reading through pages of nonsense when I get back, and there's no way you can claim to win the debate simply because I'm not here to argue for it.
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Post by deoxy99 on Apr 9, 2010 16:17:11 GMT -5
If it has the words "Dan-Ball Forum" it goes with Dan-Ball.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 9, 2010 17:04:23 GMT -5
And the "noob stating obvious fallacy" award of the month goes to...
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Post by deoxy99 on Apr 9, 2010 21:47:37 GMT -5
Me?
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 9, 2010 22:10:35 GMT -5
no i meant GV
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Apr 11, 2010 23:07:01 GMT -5
Veers? He did an April Fools joke, he didn't state any fallacy.
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Post by disabled on Apr 12, 2010 0:37:51 GMT -5
Hey Qwerty good to have you back. I hope we can continue this thread now. And I hope you know there is no real value if Listo contacts Ha55ii unless Ha55ii himself posts about it. If Listo sais "Hey I contacted him and he said OK" thats not helping. Disabled, why is is so hard to believe that Listo doesn't know anyone that speaks Japanese? Or maybe Ha55ii doesn't know anyone that speaks English? If DB-Pal is about Listo contacting him and it doesn't happen for weeks, then It looks like its not that easy. If he was the developer, he would have to have a constant contact to him. At least everytime he updates the thing. I also wonder why the listo does not include proper english in the game? "Upload past 12 hours to a total of 50"? Doesn't sound like an english speaking person to me. And I'd still like to have links to old prove. Even if it doesn't prove anything today, I'd still like to see what was the basis. And perhaps we can reconstruct it, the history of PG is pretty well documented..
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Post by vaconcovat on Apr 12, 2010 1:01:41 GMT -5
Listo is a conspiracy, and we love him for it.
This is a forum based on Dan-Ball. I couldn't care less if it wasn't official.
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Post by Pir8ozzy on Apr 12, 2010 5:02:05 GMT -5
I must now comment on your claims of 'previous evidence':
I have been here since October 2007, (and had lurked before then) and have read nearly every thread on the forum since joining. Even when I was not posting I still read (a period of about 2 years I think).
Because of this, I have seen ALL of the past threads on this subject in the last 3 years (slightly longer including my guest period), and none of them provided conclusive evidence.
So you cannot say that 'there was evidence before' because it is a FACT that there was not, and we can have 100% confidence that you will fail to find some on this forum.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 12, 2010 6:40:07 GMT -5
Veers? He did an April Fools joke, he didn't state any fallacy. wait, you didn't catch the sarcasm?
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Apr 12, 2010 9:09:19 GMT -5
PR, the forums have not existed for three years. There was evidence, you were clearly not active enough to see it.
DB-PAL is actually about a separate member contacting him. We already have a method, it's just the translation that is taking forever. No internet translator is going to work for this.
Ggoodie, I realize that it was an obvious fallacy, however, it is one that people would most likely ignore if I had not posted it. And I highly suggest you don't call me a noob.
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Post by Pir8ozzy on Apr 12, 2010 10:22:55 GMT -5
PR, the forums have not existed for three years. There was evidence, you were clearly not active enough to see it. Then how did I manage to join in October 2007 genius? And when are you going to learn to read? As I said before, I was still reading threads duing the months I was not posting, and I saw the previous threads. None of them contained conclusive evidence. So are you going to stop lying now?
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Post by disabled on Apr 12, 2010 11:36:12 GMT -5
User: admin Name: TheListo Registered: 15 Oct, 2007, 1:19
Doesn't seem you registered much earlier... Or can you register before the creator of the forum? Your point still stands, only it hasn't been 3, but 2 1/2 years.
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Post by whoknows on Apr 12, 2010 15:18:27 GMT -5
I don't think TheListo created the forum... I think he took it over after the original creater left...
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Post by disabled on Apr 12, 2010 15:22:20 GMT -5
Ok, sorry then for the misinformation.
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Post by QwertyuiopThePie on Apr 12, 2010 18:19:34 GMT -5
It was on the same account, though. My point was that the forums have not been around for 3 years, but two and a half, as has been stated.
Pr, is it so hard to believe that people actually post things on chat sometimes?
You cannot register before the admin account, and PR here registered at Oct 29, 2007, 10:07am. Does he so much as remember the deletion event? It happened far after that, I'm sure he does. Anyway, yeah, two and a half years, approximately. Not three years.
You see, there is little (not no) evidence. However, the other side has about the same amount of evidence. As such, neither side is lying, and you can stop telling me to stop lying, because I'm not. He's proven it to me. I understand that you don't believe it, and I probably wouldn't, either, if I didn't have the proof.
Please keep in mind, the "proof" I said was mentioned publicly was only briefly mentioned and was also on chat. He probably didn't want to leave an easy-to-find record, considering he's not exactly allowed to tell people updates before they happen, or to release source code.
See, I know that I am right, but I have no way of proving it here. Unless you people know where to get a polygraph machine and how to hook it up over the internet, this discussion is going nowhere, and as such the status quo can be maintained.
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