A very large amount of ideas

[pizza356]

About a few years ago, I had these ideas. Figured I should speak up.

\\class//

Flinger/slinger *a better name would be appreciated*

Flingers are a bit like whippers, but their attacking method is different. They use whips, but with a spike-like thing on the end so that it sticks into an enemy. Instead of swinging the weapon, it throws it straight into one. Then, it lifts them up in an arc and onto the ground behind it. It can hold onto an enemy until it dies or the flinger is hurt. Every weapon does damage on contact, then more every time it gets swung and hits the ground. If an enemy slams into another enemy, they both get damaged. Affects like thunder and fire happen while in mid-air, while ice and poison happen during the swing. Freeze happens when it lets go. A boss is extremely heavy, so it is hard to lift. Stationary enemies, like trees and mushrooms, are really hard to lift. If they do get lifted, than they die instantly. Flying enemys try to get away, so they mainly get held to the ground so that they can be hit by all. If an enemy is to hard to lift or a flying enemy is to hard to hold down, the ranger lets it go.

*stats*

+STR = can lift heavier enemies.
+DEX = how fast an enemy goes in mid-air (determines impact damage)
+MAG = magic attack/elements, chance of piercing through to another enemy and lifting them both (adds to the weight of the lift)

*weapons*
I'm unsure of what to name the weapon, so what would be a good name? knife-on-a-rope? Sling would be my idea. This needs help.

starter weapon: (put name here) AT: 1-3 AGI: 15-20 RANGE: 50/60 (I'm unsure which would be better)

Opening street: Fire (name here) At: 2-4 Agi: 15-20 Range: 50/60 magic: type: Fire At: 1 or 2 - 3 or 4 (I'm unsure) MP: 10 Duration: 1-3 seconds (hooray for unsurity! (unsure, if that doesn't make sense))

I also had an idea that a weapon could let the enemy go in mid-air to fling it across the stage. It would be slammed 3 times, then flung. When it hit the ground, it would take 2 or 3 times the damage.

later weapons could have better speed, poisoning while being thrown, lightning doing the same, etc. etc...

\\stage propertys// ;D

I thought that it would be cool if randomly in some stages that there could be a wall that could be attacked. It would be an obstacle that prevented you from going forward unless you destroyed it or went over it. Or a chest could randomly be put into ANY level, but it would be rare. Inside this chest would be gold and rare weapons... Sometimes a rare monster could be found in the level with high attack and damage, life, good drops. Perhaps there could be a "storm" in the level, and lightning could fall to hurt the rangers. A volcano would be cool, whether you go up it or not. If you go up it, fire could come down sometimes, or a volcano in the background could erupt, and fire would rain down on the rangers. A level could be inside of a skyscraper/city where you had to find keys and press buttons, and go up an elevator would be really cool too. Maybe a turret could be mounted to a wall. In this city, there could be some guys that attack the enemys with you - allies. Your rangers don't attack them, and they help you get rid of the enemys. Perhaps a graveyard where when you get near a grave or something, a zombie stick or ghost comes out. Could even be a swamp area with purple water under giant lily pads. The lilys could move, and the water would hurt the rangers.

\\enemies//

I think that there could be some enemies that can burrow underground, like a sand snake. Some enemys could be eggs, and are really weak. If you don't kill them fast enough, they could hatch into really strong enemys. There could be an enemy that give benefits to the others, like an aura, healing them, or even bring them back to life.

\\town//

I'm not the first to say this, it would be cool to have a storage, and you have to pay to expand the amount of items you can store inside. Perhaps a place where you can enchant your items to have more damage, higher gold drop, pretty much like compo items. Also not the first to say this, a place to change classes... For a (large) price. Maybe even a place to buy stats (not levels) for ONE ranger. Could even have an arena where you place a bet, and if you win you get double the money bet. There could be three types: Boss, Tough enemy, or large group. If you lose, you don't get a game over, but you lose the bet money.

\\weapons//

I thought that it would be cool if you could find a RARE weapon that can't be bought in the shop. It could be like a double fire poison arrow, or a knockout glove (high speed and damage), Excalibur, spas 12 shotgun, Storm (thunderstorm AND blizzard combined). Things like that. And the magician needs a poison weapon. Maybe an attack that sends a spike out of the ground to damage enemies, too.

\\randoms//

Again, not the first, it would be nice to have an armor slot, with something like:

BREASTPLATE:
defence: 3
resistances: 50% fire, poison immune
weaknesses: thunder

To have some health items in the inventory would be nice. Maybe gladiator could dual-wield. (I've heard that it won't be implemented, but I have to put it here anyways) It would be cool to control a ranger with the arrow keys. Maybe a dark type could be added, with %5 chance of instant death, but doesn't work on bosses.

And now for my favorite, SpEcIaLs! Specials are different, and depend on class. In order to use one, there would be a purple bar under the magic bar. After about 25 - 50 hits, it could be used. These *coughBADcough* ideas are as follows:
Sniper: shoots 5 - 10 arrows with poison and fire.
Magician: Shoots a large beam of energy through the environment and enemies, probably something else thats more balanced like a large spike or something.
Boxer: Hits extremely hard with multiple affects for a few seconds.
Gladiator: Sword lengthens, and can deal large amounts of damage with elemental affects.
Priest: Gives off a large amount of aura, tripling damge and 3 defence around him, and can shoot off a couple of large attacks.
Gunner: Could shoot for free, really fast
Whipper: Deals massive damage for 5 hits

These aren't the best, I know. I'm begining to get sick of typing this, so I wasn't sure of what to put. Give some ideas!

Now that you've read this large chunk of information, whaddya think? Am I obsessed or WHAT?

[Qwerty]

Certainly some good ideas, I think the stage properties are probably one of the best ones, we've only really seen underwater stages and darkness so far, plus some fog that does not really effect the gameplay.

[pizza356]

thanks, I could use the support since I just modified the thread, I didn't want to go back into it. This goes under stage propertys: There could even be a pitfall trap, where you walk over and then a hidden tunnel appears, but its dark like in the cavern stage, perhaps a pocket of water here and there. I'm bursting with thoughts

[shadowsrandom]

Red- My input on the statment
Striked- Bad idea, simple enough.
Blue- Ideas that are good, but need to be worked on a bit
Green- Maybe a tiny edit, but this idea is fine.

Apr 22, 2010 0:01:44 GMT -5 pizza356 said:

About a few years ago, I had these ideas. Figured I should speak up. What?

\\class//

Flinger/slinger *a better name would be appreciated*

Flingers are a bit like whippers, but their attacking method is different. They use whips, but with a spike-like thing on the end so that it sticks into an enemy. Instead of swinging the weapon, it throws it straight into one. Then, it lifts them up in an arc and onto the ground behind it. It can hold onto an enemy until it dies or the flinger is hurt. Every weapon does damage on contact, then more every time it gets swung and hits the ground. If an enemy slams into another enemy, they both get damaged. Affects like thunder and fire happen while in mid-air, while ice and poison happen during the swing. Freeze happens when it lets go. A boss is extremely heavy, so it is hard to lift. Stationary enemies, like trees and mushrooms, are really hard to lift. If they do get lifted, than they die instantly. Flying enemys try to get away, so they mainly get held to the ground so that they can be hit by all. If an enemy is to hard to lift or a flying enemy is to hard to hold down, the ranger lets it go.
Sounds to "different" for stick ranger.
*stats*

+STR = can lift heavier enemies.
+DEX = how fast an enemy goes in mid-air (determines impact damage)
+MAG = magic attack/elements, chance of piercing through to another enemy and lifting them both (adds to the weight of the lift)

*weapons*
I'm unsure of what to name the weapon, so what would be a good name? knife-on-a-rope? Sling would be my idea. This needs help.

starter weapon: (put name here) AT: 1-3 AGI: 15-20 RANGE: 50/60 (I'm unsure which would be better)

Opening street: Fire (name here) At: 2-4 Agi: 15-20 Range: 50/60 magic: type: Fire At: 1 or 2 - 3 or 4 (I'm unsure) MP: 10 Duration: 1-3 seconds (hooray for unsurity! (unsure, if that doesn't make sense))

I also had an idea that a weapon could let the enemy go in mid-air to fling it across the stage. It would be slammed 3 times, then flung. When it hit the ground, it would take 2 or 3 times the damage.

later weapons could have better speed, poisoning while being thrown, lightning doing the same, etc. etc...
The weapon your thinking of is a flail with a different attachment in place of the ball.
\\stage propertys// ;D

I thought that it would be cool if randomly in some stages that there could be a wall that could be attacked. It would be an obstacle that prevented you from going forward unless you destroyed it or went over it. Or a chest could randomly be put into ANY level, but it would be rare. Inside this chest would be gold and rare weapons... Sometimes a rare monster could be found in the level with high attack and damage, life, good drops. Perhaps there could be a "storm" in the level, and lightning could fall to hurt the rangers. A volcano would be cool, whether you go up it or not. If you go up it, fire could come down sometimes, or a volcano in the background could erupt, and fire would rain down on the rangers. A level could be inside of a skyscraper/city where you had to find keys and press buttons, and go up an elevator would be really cool too. Maybe a turret could be mounted to a wall. In this city, there could be some guys that attack the enemys with you - allies. Your rangers don't attack them, and they help you get rid of the enemys. Perhaps a graveyard where when you get near a grave or something, a zombie stick or ghost comes out. Could even be a swamp area with purple water under giant lily pads. The lilys could move, and the water would hurt the rangers.

\\enemies//

I think that there could be some enemies that can burrow underground, like a sand snake. Some enemys could be eggs, and are really weak. If you don't kill them fast enough, they could hatch into really strong enemys. There could be an enemy that give benefits to the others, like an aura, healing them, or even bring them back to life. I can REALLY see this in stick ranger.

\\town//

I'm not the first to say this, it would be cool to have a storage, and you have to pay to expand the amount of items you can store inside. Perhaps a place where you can enchant your items to have more damage, higher gold drop, pretty much like compo items. Also not the first to say this, a place to change classes... For a (large) price. Maybe even a place to buy stats (not levels) for ONE ranger. Could even have an arena where you place a bet, and if you win you get double the money bet. There could be three types: Boss, Tough enemy, or large group. If you lose, you don't get a game over, but you lose the bet money.

\\weapons//

I thought that it would be cool if you could find a RARE weapon that can't be bought in the shop. It could be like a double fire poison arrow, or a knockout glove (high speed and damage), Excalibur, spas 12 shotgun, Storm (thunderstorm AND blizzard combined). Things like that. And the magician needs a poison weapon. Maybe an attack that sends a spike out of the ground to damage enemies, too.

\\randoms//

Again, not the first, it would be nice to have an armor slot, with something like:

BREASTPLATE:
defence: 3
resistances: 50% fire, poison immune
weaknesses: thunder

To have some health items in the inventory would be nice. Maybe gladiator could dual-wield. (I've heard that it won't be implemented, but I have to put it here anyways) It would be cool to control a ranger with the arrow keys. Maybe a dark type could be added, with %5 chance of instant death, but doesn't work on bosses.

And now for my favorite, SpEcIaLs! Specials are different, and depend on class. In order to use one, there would be a purple bar under the magic bar. After about 25 - 50 hits, it could be used. These *coughBADcough* ideas are as follows:
Sniper: shoots 5 - 10 arrows with poison and fire.
Magician: Shoots a large beam of energy through the environment and enemies, probably something else thats more balanced like a large spike or something.
Boxer: Hits extremely hard with multiple affects for a few seconds.
Gladiator: Sword lengthens, and can deal large amounts of damage with elemental affects.
Priest: Gives off a large amount of aura, tripling damge and 3 defence around him, and can shoot off a couple of large attacks.
Gunner: Could shoot for free, really fast
Whipper: Deals massive damage for 5 hits

These aren't the best, I know. I'm begining to get sick of typing this, so I wasn't sure of what to put. Give some ideas!

Now that you've read this large chunk of information, whaddya think? Am I obsessed or WHAT?

[pizza356]

Thanks for the feedback. I've read up a little, so I've seen some suggestions that got shot down. I know that "modern stuff" won't be implemented - tanks, aircraft, ya. Well, in answer to some things that you find need some work, here goes:

*stat buying*

After a point, it can get pretty hard to gain those two points that get spent instantly. It can also be a burden trying to level up a high level team if you can't beat a boss. If there was a place where you could upgrade a stick figure's stats for some wad of money, it could make it much easier to beat through a boss.

*wall* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ] <-- [ = wall
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .]
Well, like I said, it's in the way.___ . . . ] _____ <-- land
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l . . l
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . l___l <-- pit
(dots to keep it alligned)
If you destroy it, then it falls down to make a bridge. If a ranger is stuck under the bridge, then it can still swing around if you move him up, but it will then go back down. Melee rangers would stop near the edge so as to avoid falling off (maybe, I don't know if this would matter).

*rare weapons*

Well, a rare weapon can't be found in the shop. The way to find these is to get REALLY lucky (about as lucky as getting an onigri card) when you kill an average monster. Or, you find a random chest (see above). Inside COULD be a rare weapon. The last way is to find a rare monster. These are tough to kill, but have great drops - gold, rare weapons, perhaps some special compo item.

And at the begining, I had these ideas a year or two ago, when SR was around v 2.2.

Does the clarify things?

[Qwerty]

Well, guns were added... Just saying.

As for the weapons, maybe we should only have one per class, or at the very least one per weapon. It would have to be toward the end of the game, probably after SM Shrine.

[pizza356]

Apr 22, 2010 22:47:53 GMT -5 Qwerty said:

Well, guns were added... Just saying.

um, lolwut?

[Qwerty]

It sounds very interesting. Anything else we can add?

How would one destroy the wall? Would you auto-attack it?

[pizza356]

Apr 23, 2010 13:51:56 GMT -5 Qwerty said:

It sounds very interesting. Anything else we can add?

How would one destroy the wall? Would you auto-attack it?

ya, something like that. I'm guessing there could be a few ways. Once it takes enough damage, it falls down to form a bridge over a pit. It could be attacked, or maybe a lever could be touched... Or maybe there could be a gatemaster enemy. Kill it and the wall would come down.

[ruisen2000]

i like your ideas, but some just sound un-stick-ranger like or too hard to make, stick ranger is a simple game, some of them would be too hard for them to make into the game, like storms and walls and chests.

[shadowsrandom]

Apr 24, 2010 0:23:37 GMT -5 ruisen2000 said:

i like your ideas, but some just sound un-stick-ranger like or too hard to make, stick ranger is a simple game, some of them would be too hard for them to make into the game, like storms and walls and chests.

I think the wall/chests would be an easy addition if we backed it up enough.

[Qwerty]

Yeah, and it would prevent drag-straight-to-boss-ism.

[pizza356]

Apr 24, 2010 0:23:37 GMT -5 ruisen2000 said:

i like your ideas, but some just sound un-stick-ranger like or too hard to make, stick ranger is a simple game, some of them would be too hard for them to make into the game, like storms and walls and chests.

ya, I understand that not all of this is gold, but still, I think that some of this could be implemented. Some of it IS rough and not quite like the game, but I still think that some of it is, and I could see it happening.

[Xanidel]

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my various ideas here. I would also like to take this time to say I approve of the majority of pizza's ideas and would love to see them implemented.

Future weapon ideas:

---------------Mage:
Chain Thunder
Fires a small bolt that travels similarly to Thunder 1, but on hit, spawns a second identical bolt in the air that locks onto the nearest enemy. This process is repeated a few times, and are affected by bullet cards.

Nova
Releases a ring of flames like that of the Fire Chain 2 on impact.

Frost Nova
Delta Explosion 3 given an ice/freeze element.

Hailstorm
A Freeze blizzard.

---------------Sniper:
Gold Shot
Much like how Fire Shot 4 is Fire Arrow 1 plus Triple Shot 1, this would be [double/triple] Iron Arrow 3 plus Fire Arrow 1, shooting three slow arrows along the same path which become fire plumes on impact.

Poison Shot
Fire Arrow 1+Triple Shot 1=Fire Shot 4, so in an identical fashion Poison Arrow 1+Triple Shot 1=Poison Shot, firing three slow moving arrows in an arc that generate poison clouds on impact.

Plasma/Toxic Shot
Where Poison and Fire Shot 4 are fusions of elemental arrows with Triple Shot 1, these are simply the same using Quint Shot 3.

---------------Gunner:

Flamethrower
A rapid fire, but weak version of Fire Rise 3 or just Fire 1.

RPG
Name for the upgrade for Bazooka 2, no specific new ideas for it

---------------Priest:
Staff of Darkness
Weak damage, but has the same effect as if it had a vampire card. Either that, or remove the ability and just let it be able to insert that card.

Staff of Magma
Rather than a simple 'X' of Fire appearing on a hit, it drops a full 'column' of fire on that enemy. For reference, a 'column' is what is released by a Fire Arrow 1

War Staff
Name for the upgrade for Combat Staff 4, no specific new ideas for it

Caduceus
Deals no damage on attack [0-0 base ATK], so instead on each hit on an enemy heals each party member for a small amount [in the range of 1-5]. Not affected by auras or compos.

[Qwerty]

May 12, 2010 16:49:04 GMT -5 Xanidel said:

Rather than start a new thread, I'll just post my various ideas here. I would also like to take this time to say I approve of the majority of pizza's ideas and would love to see them implemented.

Future weapon ideas:

---------------Mage:
Chain Thunder
Fires a small bolt that travels similarly to Thunder 1, but on hit, spawns a second identical bolt in the air that locks onto the nearest enemy. This process is repeated a few times, and are affected by bullet cards. Yeah, sounds like a pretty awesome idea. It would lead to neat effects.

Nova
Releases a ring of flames like that of the Fire Chain 2 on impact. Interesting, but there are already a few like it.

Frost Nova
Delta Explosion 3 given an ice/freeze element. Seems like SR programmer style. I think it would do better as Delta Frost, though, so it matches up.

Hailstorm
A Freeze blizzard. I smell splash damage.

---------------Sniper:
Gold Shot
Much like how Fire Shot 4 is Fire Arrow 1 plus Triple Shot 1, this would be [double/triple] Iron Arrow 3 plus Fire Arrow 1, shooting three slow arrows along the same path which become fire plumes on impact. Interesting, but I wouldn't go with Gold. Maybe Steel?

Poison Shot
Fire Arrow 1+Triple Shot 1=Fire Shot 4, so in an identical fashion Poison Arrow 1+Triple Shot 1=Poison Shot, firing three slow moving arrows in an arc that generate poison clouds on impact. See Frost Nova.

Plasma/Toxic Shot
Where Poison and Fire Shot 4 are fusions of elemental arrows with Triple Shot 1, these are simply the same using Quint Shot 3. So, Quint Poison and Quint Fire? Again, see Frost Nova. I can see them doing this.

---------------Gunner:

Flamethrower
A rapid fire, but weak version of Fire Rise 3 or just Fire 1. Would it be more advanced, or weaker?

RPG
Name for the upgrade for Bazooka 2, no specific new ideas for it Interesting, but needs some form of actual upload.

---------------Priest:
Staff of Darkness
Weak damage, but has the same effect as if it had a vampire card. Either that, or remove the ability and just let it be able to insert that card. I saw a video of something like this once. It was neat. It didn't do the same thing, but same name. Seems a bit powerful with vampy card, and a bit weak without. Any other ideas for this one?

Staff of Magma
Rather than a simple 'X' of Fire appearing on a hit, it drops a full 'column' of fire on that enemy. For reference, a 'column' is what is released by a Fire Arrow 1 Interesting idea, but needs a different name.

War Staff
Name for the upgrade for Combat Staff 4, no specific new ideas for it See RPG.

Caduceus
Deals no damage on attack [0-0 base ATK], so instead on each hit on an enemy heals each party member for a small amount [in the range of 1-5]. Not affected by auras or compos. No auras?

[General Veers]

Actually, Xanidel, it would be preferable that you start a new thread so that we can keep track of all the various ideas. Not only that, but by posting your own ideas in someone else's idea thread, you hijacked the thread. I do believe this is your first offense, a mere mistake, and so I will only warn you textually.

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pizza356, some of those ideas are quite interesting, and several of them seem like must-haves that would bring new interest in the game and, if you permit me to exaggerate, revolutionize how users play Stick Ranger.

My favorite ideas involve the stage properties. Having a randomly dropped chest with a "golden" or "epic" (or whatever you call it) weapon will be an extra for those who take the time to go through all the stages repeatedly. Knowing Java, I imagine that it would be quite easy to code into the game, despite that I haven't seen the source *.java files. I must wonder whether a certain accomplishment should be met (e.g. defeat all stages west of and including Castle Boss) in order for the chest to start appearing, or if the weapon should not drop until after opening a specific stage. Such measures would prevent the improbable chance of a team finding a chest in Opening Street at level 5...

Randomly appearing enemies would be an interesting idea, although they probably should not be introduced too early into the game either.

The various stage ideas are also interesting, especially the "interactive" weather for various stages you propose. I'm not so sure that the "city" idea, in which the stage itself changes, could be implemented into Stick Ranger without revamping existing Java classes and interfaces. Items that do not alter the platforms themselves, unlike enemies that could burrow through what previously would be solid ground, should be good, I would imagine...

Something I do not like is purchasing statistics or levels. That would seem to defeat the purpose of leveling up. If the price was made high enough, then it shouldn't be too bad, as teams would have to invest their time playing in order to get back quite a nice reward.

Gambling on your success in an arena sounds like an excellent opportunity for challenge and rewards. To prevent users from "cheating the system," what kind of boss in boss fights, what kind of mob in mob fights, or what kind of tough enemy in tough enemy fights would have to be kept secret until a team finalizes its bet.

[Xanidel]

Should I create a new topic then or stay here? I just figured since there was no posts for three weeks it would have been all right to post here.

[Qwerty]

Feel free to make a new topic.

I agree with Veers. Maybe they find a key at Castle Boss or Submarine Shrine, provided they beat all the levels to the west of it? It would give some incentive to beat levels like "lake".