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Post by microfarad on May 6, 2010 17:51:22 GMT -5
Ggoodie told me that Listo banned him for saying that Listo is not a PG programmer. I believe this statement, and consider the ban to be power abuse. I have unbanned Ggoodie. Please tell me if my assumptions were incorrect.
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Post by General Veers on May 6, 2010 17:59:03 GMT -5
I had explicit orders from TheListo himself to keep GGoodie (and Chronologik?) banned for one week without exceptions, but I know TheListo tends to react strongly to statements concerning lack of faith in him.
TheListo never told me the reason for the ban before he left, so I imagine GGoodie's statement to take precedence over TheListo's hyperbole. I'll probably get a tirade or worse for this, but I should say nevertheless that you are justified in unbanning GGoodie.
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Post by microfarad on May 6, 2010 23:11:31 GMT -5
I would still like to look further into this. It appears as if Listo had a bit of an over-reaction at this. However, I would like to further inquire exactly WHAT GGoodie had done. If he threatened Listo or anything serious like that the one week ban may be justifiable. I doubt GGoodie would do that. Listo probably just got a bit indignant at the caustic accusations GGoodie was making. I would like to point out that insubordination is not a punishable offense. That "no exceptions" thing is worrying me a bit too. We really aren't working on enough information here. Is this a case of blatant power abuse, retribution, strict punishment, or justifiable rule enforcement. Should we re-instate the ban on default until the case can be more carefully assessed? My own analysis on the issue is that GGoodie was probably just very rude to Listo, who took matters into his own hands.
As evidence I site a GGoodie rant. Which is, aside from flame-ish, rather harmless. Perhaps Listo could have punished flaming with a one day, perhaps even two day ban. But a week is over the top.
microfarad (03:46:09 PM): Sigh
microfarad (03:46:12 PM): Okay
ggoodie (03:46:15 PM): kcoo
ggoodie (03:46:16 PM): btw
ggoodie (03:46:24 PM): i am the web designer for google
ggoodie (03:46:27 PM): but
ggoodie (03:46:31 PM): even though i do it for free
microfarad (03:46:33 PM): ?
ggoodie (03:46:35 PM): i cant show you proof
microfarad (03:46:38 PM): Wait
ggoodie (03:46:39 PM): cause im under contract
microfarad (03:46:50 PM): you made that terrible new look?
ggoodie (03:46:53 PM): and I dont have any contacts with google to show you
ggoodie (03:47:01 PM): but
ggoodie (03:47:02 PM): srsl
ggoodie (03:47:05 PM): *Srsly
ggoodie (03:47:06 PM): i am
microfarad (03:47:08 PM): Lol
ggoodie (03:47:08 PM): and if you say im not
ggoodie (03:47:11 PM): i will ban you
ggoodie (03:47:24 PM): from my official googleforum
microfarad (03:47:24 PM): Can you change the look back for me?
microfarad (03:47:31 PM): Or add a setting to do so?
microfarad (03:47:37 PM): LOL
ggoodie (03:47:37 PM): no
ggoodie (03:47:40 PM): im not allowed
ggoodie (03:47:43 PM): to choose what to put it
microfarad (03:47:44 PM): Ur unbanned dude...
ggoodie (03:47:44 PM): *in
I also had my own little rant on the terrible new look Google has, as you can see... Also, you can see I was a little slow on the uptake there. You wouldn't believe how big of an idiot I can be...
Veers, how long ago was GGoodie banned? Should we re-instate the ban until it has totaled two days for flaming? Also, what of Chronologik?
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Post by Qwerty on May 11, 2010 8:52:18 GMT -5
Well, he IS annoying, but banning him isn't the answer. I dunno about Chrono. I haven't seen him being flamey.
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