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Post by Qwerty on Nov 2, 2008 23:21:38 GMT -5
it just sorta says that there just was a lot of energy there...
Although, one theory is that it was caused when another universe collided with ours in the tenth dimension.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 2, 2008 23:26:00 GMT -5
- How did the other universe come into existence in the first place?
- Dimensions are just an indication of the number of possible spatial measures. i.e. 3D = space (length, width, depth) 2D = plane (length, width) 1D = line (length) 0D = mathematical point (-)
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Post by Qwerty on Nov 2, 2008 23:50:20 GMT -5
I know. That is what they were referring to. Of course, this is just based off an article... so I don't entirely believe that theory.
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Post by shandyman on Nov 5, 2008 9:30:47 GMT -5
Alright, well, I think we just about covered this theory. so lets move on. I suppose we could talk about...god? god. Lets talk about that.
Do you think there is or isn't one If so, what do you think he's like? Do you think he created everything? or that he just caused it, let it all happen, and when intelligent life-forms came, he decided to help us?
Questions like that Note: I do know that this can be a touchy subject. But I believe that religion and science go hand in hand. If you are uncomfortable with this topic, then you can wait until we finish this one and get to a new topic. Also: Please be kind of other's beliefs. I made this thread so that we could KINDLY discuss what we think of the universe around us. and it just so happens god is part of that universe one way or another. There should be many other topics like this one so again: please be kind. you may point out flaws still, but please let people believe what they want to believe.
SOOO... New Topic: God???
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Post by Sandmaster on Nov 7, 2008 18:24:15 GMT -5
God? Kindly in bold lettering? That's like a slang mix of Hebrew, Mandarin, Japanese, and Latin at once!
NO NICE WITH GOD.
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Post by shandyman on Nov 13, 2008 9:00:52 GMT -5
... Of course you can be nice when talking about God! Just state your belief, so someone can point out flaws (if they want to), so they can state their belief, and someone else can point out flaws in their's. And that's it. You leave it up to the person you "criticized" to either take what you said to heart, post again for clarification, or to ignore it! it's that simple. anyways, this IS an uncomfortable subject for many peeps...so I'll start it.
My belief: 1 God, "creator" of us and some of the universe around us. The first intelligent being he created was Christ. Christ, being the one and only other intelligence at that time, learned quickly from God and created the rest of the worlds. While he did that, God started creating the rest of us. All of the intelligences are created and given spiritual bodies, (almost) all worlds are finished and start running, and the work is completed (this is the beginning of the seventh "day") God comes up with a great plan for all of his creations/children that they will be tested to show which of his creations can come back to him with limited memory of these events, and hard trials to come. But because he's all knowing, God knows that (almost) everyone will make mistakes, so he needs a way for repentance and thus a savior. Satan steps up and thinks it would be much easier if they just MADE us be good so that we could ALL come back to him and asks for power. Satan is rejected, and Jesus steps up agreeing with God and asks to be the savior. God agrees, while Satan goes off angry at God. Adam and Jesus are then authorized to create Earth. They create it, and either through evolution or just directly placing the first human body down (it doesn't matter which, just evolution would take longer) it is Adam's body and yada yada yada...God takes Adam's rib to create Eve. Satan comes back and is still angry, so he tries to destroy God's work by tricking Eve to disobey God. Adam wants to stay with Eve so he partakes of the forbidden fruit as well. God comes and finds what Adam and Eve did. They are now Mortal and are cast out of the garden but they now know how to reproduce. Satan is caught and trapped to the Earth. War in heaven is fought because of this, and 1/3 of all of the spirits in heaven are cast out for following Satan and also trapped on the Earth. Everyone who ever has, does now, or will have a physical body are the 2/3 of heaven who did not rebel...... That's pretty much the plan God came up with. I said he was all knowing. He cares for all of us (even Satan....though they are still enemies) and he came from a LOOOOOOOONG line of Gods before him that goes back infinitely.
I could go on...but this is all ready a HUGE post. That's what I believe. If you find anything wrong with it say it here! Don't be shy! Just be understanding and willing to change (if the change is necessary)
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Post by Sandmaster on Nov 21, 2008 19:02:24 GMT -5
I want to emphasize my point about 'no nice with God' by stating that I laughed.
And I would like to say that I have been to over 20 religious debates. How many were nice? NONE. 0.
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Post by shandyman on Dec 8, 2008 19:06:39 GMT -5
...sigh...FINE...also, just because YOU haven't been able to have a good religious debate doesn't mean that's it's impossible. But fine. You win. it's been a month or two...so if no one wants to talk about god or religion, then we'll move on... New Topic: Matter in general Do you think scientists are right about current theories? like atoms and protons and electrons and photons and etc. Do you have anything to add on to these theories? Do you think photons are the smallest particle? etc. also, I'm now adding rules because SOME people think it's too hard to have a NICE debate. they're simple, but still follow them for the sake of others: - Post your theory about the current topic and allow others to 'criticize' or correct your theory. you may also post about previous topics, just be sure to specify which one it is for.
- If clarification is needed, do so in a positive way so that it doesn't offend others
- I may run out of ideas for theories, so if you have anything you want to talk about, any idea you have or theory, post it here. I don't have to be the only one deciding what we talk about. if you want to change the subject*, post a new idea that people would also like to talk about.
*Note: I did not contradict myself. I already knew that religion and god were subjects some people were uncomfortable about. I was hoping that there might be some other person who would like to talk about things like that. SM did say the subject should be changed, but he did not specify what subject he would like to talk about. So I kept my hopes up. if you want to change the subject, do so politely and CLEARLY. alright, I think I'm done ranting. soo... New Topic: Matter in general
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Post by Sandmaster on Dec 8, 2008 19:09:46 GMT -5
Photons. Not smallest. Antimatter. Total bull. String theory. Just no.
I see no proof for any of these. People could say "we made antimatter," but I can and do reply saying that I made a pink donkey-whale-BLT hybrid in my basement.
Some people already claim that these things are known fact, so can someone please give me something that could change my opinion or something?
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Post by shandyman on Dec 8, 2008 20:21:05 GMT -5
I do agree with you. I don't think that photons are the smallest things. But if you want something to change your mind about anti-matter then...lets just say that your argument of saying you created a pink donkey-whale-BLT hybrid in your basement, can also mean that none of us actually exist. someone can just as easily say to whoever discovered the ability to split an atom (I think it was Madame Currie, but I'm not sure) "Well, I created a perpetual flow of electricity that can create water out of literally nothing. That's just as likely as you splitting an atom." I could just as easily scoff at someone who 'made' a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and tell them that I don't believe it's there. I can see it, feel it, taste it, and smell it, (I don't think I could hear it very well) but I can still say that the pp&j sandwich they have is not real and that they can never convince me of its existence....um....except that the proof is right there. the 4 senses I used on it proves that it DOES exist. what you're saying, or at least what I think you are saying, is that anti-matter doesn't exist because I have no proof, even though I do have proof....What? (this is my assumption) basically, you're just being kinda stubborn. I personally believe that anti-matter and dark-matter are just things that we already knew about, just scientists have put a different name to it. But the point is that anti-matter DOES exist because they HAVE created it. so the question isn't, 'does anti-matter exist?', but it should be 'is it a kind of matter that ALREADY existed in the universe, or is it just a creation of man?' ..and string theory...I don't know...could someone please explain what it is?
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Post by Sandmaster on Dec 9, 2008 16:50:39 GMT -5
antimatter could be highly unstable matter, but it still matter.
Also, technically according to modern mathematics, we actually DO NOT exist!
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Post by Qwerty on Dec 14, 2008 0:57:20 GMT -5
er...
please elaborate on that.
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Post by General Veers on Dec 14, 2008 1:01:37 GMT -5
Also, [glow=red,2,300] technically[/glow] according to modern mathematics, we actually DO NOT exist! What does it actually say, then? Especially since Rene Descartes, a reknowned mathematician, stated that because he thinks, he exists. The statement may be silly, but a mathematician said it, so with math supporting and disproving our existence just confounds me. Translated into English:
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Post by shirogake on Dec 14, 2008 11:28:38 GMT -5
Here's what REALLY happened.
Before the universe was created, the ultimate taco floated in nothingness. God then tried to eat the taco, but the taco didn't like it, so he exploded. This is called the 'Big Bang'. Balls of taco meat formed planets. Those that didn't form planets became asteroids.
Eventually, the ultimate Grilled Cheese also exploded. However, it formed stars and the first life forms were created. These life forms discovered the only inhabitable planet they could find, known as Earth. They then lived up to the present day.
FIN
It makes sense.
Anyway, if we do not exist, then how am I, a 'nonexistant being' sitting here posting messages on the 'nonexistant' Internet? How does Chuck Norris not exist?
I think my point is proven.
(Now if you excuse me, I'm going to change all the censors to Chuck Norris, lulz)
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Post by Sandmaster on Dec 14, 2008 13:28:15 GMT -5
Obviously, the things you interact with do not exist either, including the computer, the forum, me, and chuck norris.
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Post by General Veers on Dec 14, 2008 13:43:41 GMT -5
You posted without explaining?!?!
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Post by shirogake on Dec 14, 2008 13:49:49 GMT -5
But we cannot interact with things that do not exist. If I interact with a door, does the door exist? I believe so.
Therefore, how can we interact with things if we nor they do not exist? How can we do things if we do not exist? How can we not exist if we interact with things?
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Post by Sandmaster on Dec 14, 2008 14:01:58 GMT -5
BECAUSE WE DON'T EXIST!
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Post by shirogake on Dec 14, 2008 14:17:31 GMT -5
I see nothing to support your statements. Therefore, they are not legit.
The only thing I see you say is "We don't exist" but you have nothing to back it up.
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Post by Sandmaster on Dec 14, 2008 17:16:57 GMT -5
Thats because everything that I have to back it up doesn't exist.
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