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Post by V.I.R.O.S. on Mar 6, 2009 6:49:56 GMT -5
No, a dystopia is a horrible situation where no one dreams of anything but living another day. An Anti-Utopia is a Utopia that would be perfect except it has one fatal flaw.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Mar 6, 2009 7:34:24 GMT -5
Ouch. O.O
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Post by mattaroni on Mar 6, 2009 22:44:14 GMT -5
Well, then dictionary.com must be wrong, because when you look up "anti-utopia", the first definition that comes up is dystopia...
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Post by The Dark Master on Mar 7, 2009 13:07:55 GMT -5
They might be the same.
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Post by Sandmaster on Mar 9, 2009 15:17:49 GMT -5
Excuse me, but didn't we let Bush off the hook when he was nearly a year into presidency? Obama is barely 3 months.
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Post by The Dark Master on Mar 9, 2009 16:58:32 GMT -5
Aye, true. But did we have to let G.B off the hook?
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Post by Sandmaster on Mar 9, 2009 17:38:51 GMT -5
No. We probably didn't
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 11, 2009 10:42:05 GMT -5
Either way, it's taken Obama a very short period of time to destroy the values that this country was founded on.
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 11, 2009 11:12:15 GMT -5
Such as...?
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 11, 2009 16:10:00 GMT -5
...driving our once capitalism-driven country towards becoming a socialistic nation through a gradual and suttle shift of power to the government (which, instead, should be in the hands of the people).
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 12, 2009 12:06:30 GMT -5
I don think the people have that much power anyway. Im no sure what we do in politics apart from voting. Anyway, i think most of the power should be in the government.
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Post by General Veers on Apr 12, 2009 12:18:23 GMT -5
I don think the people have that much power anyway. Im no sure what we do in politics apart from voting. Do you know how powerful a vote is? A vote determines who our representative will be, and therefore how a representative will make decisions. A representative is easily swayed by the power of the vote, and will do nearly anything to ensure that (s)he gets the vote. Votes were the difference between McCain and Obama. Votes were the difference between giving Chancellor Palpatine emergency totalitarian powers and keeping power in the hands of voters' representatives. Votes were the difference between accepting and declining Nazism in the last of the Weimar Republic. Votes were so important, Southerners in the United States had to ensure that African-Americans couldn't get to them. Votes determine policies, and in so doing, determine the future.
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 12, 2009 12:23:57 GMT -5
True, but, mattaroni is saying that more power is being transferred to the government, and how is this? We shall always get to vote (hopefully), so what power other than that is getting transferred to the government?
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Post by General Veers on Apr 12, 2009 13:33:25 GMT -5
In Capitalism, privately owned businesses compete with each other to receive consumers' money.
In Socialism, the government controls businesses in much the same way the government has agencies and administrations [e.g. NASA, Transportation Security Administration (TSA), et cetera...]
These are economic policies, and we are a Mixed Market (i.e. some capitalism and some socialism mixed together).
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 12, 2009 15:54:55 GMT -5
Oh ok....
Is it the same in britain?
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 12, 2009 23:16:35 GMT -5
I believe so...
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Post by ROBiT on Apr 12, 2009 23:21:31 GMT -5
I don think the people have that much power anyway. Im no sure what we do in politics apart from voting. Do you know how powerful a vote is? A vote determines who our representative will be, and therefore how a representative will make decisions. A representative is easily swayed by the power of the vote, and will do nearly anything to ensure that (s)he gets the vote. Votes were the difference between McCain and Obama. Votes were the difference between giving Chancellor Palpatine emergency totalitarian powers and keeping power in the hands of voters' representatives. Votes were the difference between accepting and declining Nazism in the last of the Weimar Republic. Votes were so important, Southerners in the United States had to ensure that African-Americans couldn't get to them. Votes determine policies, and in so doing, determine the future. A helluva lot votes will do unless someone can read minds; we have no idea what their true intentions are and thus base our votes on their "personality". We could vote for the perfect president who turns out to be the next Hitler.
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 13, 2009 18:29:31 GMT -5
Very true...and somewhat daunting.
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 14, 2009 3:29:42 GMT -5
Possibly, but very unlikely. Would the rest of the government go with him or rebel?
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 14, 2009 10:24:30 GMT -5
He would probably be so sly and deceiving that he could convince (or simply threaten) everyone to obey him...
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