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Post by mattaroni on Feb 21, 2009 22:22:08 GMT -5
I assume that most of you have heard about the Congress passing Obama's stimulus bill that, supposedly, will kickstart the struggling American Economy. However, it's beginning to seem as if the bill includes legislation, funding, etc. that instead of stimulating the economy, it simply perpetuates political propoganda. What do you think about the stimulus bill? Do you believe it will make an impact on the economy or do you think it simply is full of pointless federal spending?
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 22, 2009 6:44:53 GMT -5
Er. I dont think. I just hope it works although i hope it crashes the car industry
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Post by mattaroni on Feb 22, 2009 11:56:31 GMT -5
I agree with you about the car industry. If they can't sell their product and support themselves, then they shouldn't be given taxpayer money to keep running...
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 22, 2009 13:03:28 GMT -5
Yup. And to stop global warming of course.
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Post by SilentWaves on Feb 23, 2009 16:10:28 GMT -5
well sicne were on the toppic of global warming how many of you believe in that? I do.
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 23, 2009 16:13:35 GMT -5
me 2. Although dont go off topic.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Feb 25, 2009 8:18:14 GMT -5
He said he gave 700 billion dollars to "poor" people. These people should have gotten a job. And they could have. Easily.
He ended up giving most that away to the government, as a matter of fact. Liar. Didn't he say he was giving it to the PEOPLE?
He also used it to make jobs that were not needed and payed little, if at all. Great going. The better choice would be to just stay jobless.
He crashed the economy again, overall. Son of a Kenny Glen.
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Post by doomish on Feb 25, 2009 8:20:57 GMT -5
Have you seen what the money is ACTUALLY going to? Very incredibly stupid reasons.
However, us people who actually work aren't getting anything out of it, and people who lost their jobs and are living on welfare are getting basically free money.
Damn it, he's making it worse!
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Post by mattaroni on Feb 25, 2009 20:40:11 GMT -5
I with you 100% doomish. So much money from this "stimulus bill" is going towards projects and organizations that will not help support our economy AT ALL. On the campaign, Obama had promised to eliminate such things (commonly known as pork) from bills that he pushed to get passed. I hope that Obama follows through with his promises. He hasn't done such a good job with that so far.
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Post by doomish on Feb 25, 2009 21:05:17 GMT -5
Those of us who did things the right way and bought a house and aren't immigrants and such, we have to pay for those who did it WRONG to fix their mistakes.
We who have jobs, we who have houses and cars and expenses are losing our money to lazy people who apply for welfare because they aren't qualified for a job.
/miniature rant
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 26, 2009 14:05:55 GMT -5
LAZY PEOPLE!!?? They cant get jobs, they've been made redundant! Sitting in your comfy home, you think 'poor people are just lazy'. No, they are unlucky, and work hard for the lowest possible wage.
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Post by spaghetticat on Feb 26, 2009 14:13:30 GMT -5
I believe in it partially. Car companies should be given loans. Their growth will regulate the car industry. More buyers will regulate the market and in return will lower prices in the long run. Unfortunately we will have to experience some raised prices until the economy regulates again. Do I believe that Obama is helping? Not much. His speeches were all bark no bite. The first speech he made after he was sworn in he evn said it himself quote "Alright let's get serious, are the things that I said really gonna happen? Maybe SOME of them, but let's get real." end quote.
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 26, 2009 14:20:41 GMT -5
Why do you not like obama? If its one man to rebuild america, tis him. Dont just say 'he's talking rubbish', its not like you know what he's thinkig.
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Post by spaghetticat on Feb 26, 2009 14:22:51 GMT -5
No, your right, I don't know what's going on inside his head but I have the right to my own opinion. I do believe however that he will be a very influential president and will influence the American culture to be something better.
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 26, 2009 17:14:14 GMT -5
Good
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Post by doomish on Feb 26, 2009 18:46:19 GMT -5
Rants are to be taken as a biased opinion.
Now, then, people treat Obama as if he were a god, as if he is going to shake his magic wand and make everything better. People view Obama as the savior, the messiah of presidency. he's going to fix what Bush messed up, supposedly.
But did Bush mess anything up? No. He was doing his job. He did good things too. Sure, his decisions made as prices go up, but they also made gas prices come to record lows for our generation afterwards.
But what do we recognize him for? The bad things.
I like Obama, I really do, but I don't see any change happening.
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Post by mattaroni on Feb 26, 2009 22:01:11 GMT -5
Dommish, I do see change happening, just not all of it is beneficial.
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Post by mattaroni on Feb 26, 2009 22:01:43 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant doomish...
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Post by doomish on Feb 26, 2009 22:03:38 GMT -5
And I respect your opinion. I can see both sides of the argument, but I favor one more than the other...
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Post by The Dark Master on Feb 27, 2009 3:01:45 GMT -5
doomish, if you cant see any good from obama, do you expect gold raining down, global warming solved in a matter of seconds or what?
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