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Love
Mar 9, 2009 16:32:49 GMT -5
Post by Sandmaster on Mar 9, 2009 16:32:49 GMT -5
So stop being in denial
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Love
Mar 9, 2009 16:33:47 GMT -5
Post by The Dark Master on Mar 9, 2009 16:33:47 GMT -5
Who, me, or sc?
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Love
Mar 9, 2009 16:34:29 GMT -5
Post by Sandmaster on Mar 9, 2009 16:34:29 GMT -5
SC
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 6:44:54 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 14, 2009 6:44:54 GMT -5
wait, what? Love and Hate don't exist? so there's nothing between me and SR? or between FireShell and NubWarz? or between TBP and Qwerty? or, with hate, nothing between Listo and Nova? I'm pretty sure there is. I mean, what do you know? do you even have really, really, REALLY close GFs? not just normal, but ones that you want to be with forever, even passed death?
I'm not in denial when saying this, I'm using common sense. granted, you could THINK you are too, but your minds could veer off into the direction you want it to go, and that isn't sense or logic or w/e, that's what you want. whereas, I'm using the things around me. I'm using undeniable evidence, of things that happen daily, as proof for this.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 6:51:17 GMT -5
Post by The Dark Master on Mar 14, 2009 6:51:17 GMT -5
Um....... the stuff between FireShell and Nubwarz and stuff like that isn't real love, you actually need to meet each other, it does help. The chances of there being real love between them is next to nothing. If they ever met.... And yes, I have had a GF. A close one. Don't think i don't know what it feels like.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 7:35:03 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 14, 2009 7:35:03 GMT -5
so...why do you agree with what SM said? or do you not agree with it?
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 9:39:19 GMT -5
Post by The Dark Master on Mar 14, 2009 9:39:19 GMT -5
SB, you think love is something seperate from the physical world. All love is is just another emotion, caused by electric signals and reactions in the brain.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 9:56:34 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 14, 2009 9:56:34 GMT -5
except that we already discovered on page 1 that it isn't just that. there are many different types, and many different usages of it.
if love was JUST an emotion, would you be with your GF? no, because you wouldn't have any connection to her. if it was just an emotion, it would only be an internal thing inside of you. but love is a connection between 2 different intelligences. that's how you and your GF stay together. because you made a connection. but there are still different types of love specialized for specific intelligences. hence the problem with same-gender marriages. for people/intelligences of the same gender, it could be all types of love except romantic love. why? because it simply doesn't work to have 2 intelligences of the same gender reproduce.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 10:12:54 GMT -5
Post by The Dark Master on Mar 14, 2009 10:12:54 GMT -5
Connection?? We are just both a pile of atoms (christians are the people who just cant accept that), and the connection you think exists is just a part of the emotion.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 13:58:05 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 14, 2009 13:58:05 GMT -5
(actually, FYI I do MORE than just accept it, every day) Us being piles of atoms is more evidence! all matter has SOME amount of intelligence in it. the grouped intelligence of all the matter (in the right design and order) in our bodies is how we are so sentient. and you can't deny that, because that goes along with evolution. if you deny this, you deny evolution because that's what evolution is! the basis of life, with the chemicals that make it up in the exact right order. what guides the RNA into the Ribosome so it makes proteins? why can't mitochondria use red light waves to make energy the same way plants use greenish light waves? how is it that such a small and fragile thing as a cell can be the protective layering of our bodies? how can any sort of jumble of chemicals create sentient life? because it has intelligence. and ____ is a connection between 2 intelligences. the "____" is a word in the English language that has this pronunciation: L-uh-v and it's spelled as L-O-V-E that's all it is. it's a word used to describe the connections between 2 intelligences.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 14:09:43 GMT -5
Post by doomish on Mar 14, 2009 14:09:43 GMT -5
Love is an absurd concept.
The premise of love is that two people like each other more than just 'like', and they go do things together more frequently, and even kiss more than normally and such things.
But, of course, nobody really ever loves anyone. There's always doubt and there's always a form of inner hatred. So, of course, love cannot truly exist, as our conception of love is impossible and cannot happen. Human emotions are impossibly complex, meaning that someone could be feeling one way about someone today and another tomorrow.
Like, today, I hate the world and everyone in it. I absolutely despise the scathing existenc of human beings on a planet we're slowly ruining, but who knows? Tomorrow I might be Happy Doomish again.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 14:53:42 GMT -5
Post by The Dark Master on Mar 14, 2009 14:53:42 GMT -5
So you think we evolve because we are intelligent?No, it is the other way round. Evolution is a matter of trial and error, it doesnt naturally do all that stuff, SB.
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Love
Mar 14, 2009 14:57:02 GMT -5
Post by General Veers on Mar 14, 2009 14:57:02 GMT -5
what guides the RNA into the Ribosome so it makes proteins? why can't mitochondria use red light waves to make energy the same way plants use greenish light waves? how is it that such a small and fragile thing as a cell can be the protective layering of our bodies? how can any sort of jumble of chemicals create sentient life? because it has intelligence. Actually, the key words are "equilibrium" and "ease." So you think we evolve because we are intelligent?No, it is the other way round. Evolution is a matter of trial and error, it doesnt naturally do all that stuff, SB. And yes, evolution is trial-and-error, but that belongs in the "Creationism or Evolution" thread... Of course, the "intelligence" behind everything IS natural, otherwise it wouldn't seem so intelligent. Granted, that seeming intelligence is attributed to equilibrium, ease, and physical laws, but it's still natural nonetheless...
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Love
Mar 24, 2009 8:08:52 GMT -5
Post by Sandmaster on Mar 24, 2009 8:08:52 GMT -5
So you think we evolve because we are intelligent?No, it is the other way round. Evolution is a matter of trial and error, it doesnt naturally do all that stuff, SB. Not necessarily. We technically COULD control how we evolve by coercing people with genes we want to reproduce. That would be a super-controlled evolution process. BTW, SB is in denial again. I'm writing about a subject that you would probably need to read very much about subconscious denial.
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Love
Mar 24, 2009 8:22:42 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 24, 2009 8:22:42 GMT -5
denial? what did I "deny"? I said something of my own reasoning. if anyone is denying stuff it's you and DM trying to contradict what makes complete sense.
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Love
Mar 24, 2009 8:36:17 GMT -5
Post by Sandmaster on Mar 24, 2009 8:36:17 GMT -5
See? The subconscious and the conscious are contradicting each other, and because you are run by your subconscious, it wins and therefore you don't question yourself as easily.
Love is the example:
If you really think about it, love is a 'by-product of sexual lust,' in the words of Dawkins, and gives birth to irrational behavior (and babies, which is it's main purpose). But because you are thinking irrationally with love (possibly about it too), you therefore don't understand it as easily.
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Love
Mar 29, 2009 15:55:14 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Mar 29, 2009 15:55:14 GMT -5
I...never disagreed to anything! ok, fine, I'm in denial! but therefore I'm not, seeing as I'm agreeing! but then I am, as I just said I wasn't.... and thus we get into a big long paradox where it would have been better if it was never brought up.
so anyways, the only way it would be contradictory to my subconscious is if what my consciousness wanted was against what my subconsciousness wanted. seeing as you don't know me, you can't decide what my subconscious wants. and because you said that the subconscious is what I run on, and therefore my consciousness is effected by that, I can't be in denial with my own thoughts. so, the only thing I can think of, is that you're being stubborn and don't want to even say "maybe" to my thoughts, and just toss around 'denial' at anyone who doesn't agree with you.
and now you also say that I don't understand it as easily, even though I understand it much better than you. or is that a complement? that it doesn't come as easily, but I still understand more than you? well, thank you! but again, you don't know me, so while the complement is nice, you really shouldn't judge what you don't know. :\
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Love
Apr 4, 2009 0:13:43 GMT -5
Post by Qwerty on Apr 4, 2009 0:13:43 GMT -5
It isn't really a paradox... Once you admit that you are in denial, then from that point on you are not in denial. No matter what you said before that point.
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Love
Apr 7, 2009 9:39:29 GMT -5
Post by Sandmaster on Apr 7, 2009 9:39:29 GMT -5
seeing as you don't know me, you can't decide what my subconscious wants. and because you said that the subconscious is what I run on, and therefore my consciousness is effected by that, I can't be in denial with my own thoughts. Obviously you don't know how your subconscious works.
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Love
Apr 11, 2009 23:17:12 GMT -5
Post by Soul Alchemist on Apr 11, 2009 23:17:12 GMT -5
and who made you some supernatural being to know the inner workings of MY mind? again, you don't know me, so you can't possibly say that my mind works like how it says it would in your little book.
and who made the author of that book you got that info from, some ruler of logic? any fool can say something that makes sense to SOMEone! what makes him (or even you) so special?
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