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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 5:48:05 GMT -5
No matter how much we try, we can't get rid of the evil gene.
It's survival instinct that makes us kill others. That's our natural drive. Anyway, it would take millions of light years to find a habitable planet, even if we do go at light speed.
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Post by General Veers on Apr 26, 2009 10:39:47 GMT -5
A light-year is a form of distance (how much light travels over the course of one year on Earth), so of course it wouldn't matter if we went at light speed, sonic speed, or AT-AT speed (which can be somewhat slow...).
The thing is, your speed over that distance will shorten or prolong the time it takes to get there. Time and speed are the variables, not distance (which is admittedly arbitrary, but nonetheless constant).
I don't think there is any so-called "evil gene." It seems more appropriate that any individual (human, grey wolf, great squid, redwood tree, etc.) would be self-preserving. A self-preserving individual for the most part would only care for itself and not for others, unless when caring for others provides for some gratification or assurance of survival on the individual's part.
Humans, as relatively (in relation to our perception of other lifeforms) complex as we are, take this natural self-preservation to a whole new level: selfishness.
This is where you are more correct, The Dark Master, from my point of view. Granted, this is all speculation, but still...
One day, we just might be able to develop entities that can transport us at nearly the speed of light, but until then, it looks like we have to make the transport itself a colony (similar to in WALL-E), or stay here and try our best to avoid our eventual fate...
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 10:52:45 GMT -5
If the transport itself was a colony, over the billions of years trying to get sonewhere wont we all die of something eventually or evolve into something and forget where were heading? Civilisations travelling through space i dont think will work.
I dont think its possible to avoid our eventual fate...Either climate change, an asteroid, or the expansion of the sun will kill us off, and only then shall that little bug on the windscreen of the universe be wiped off.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 26, 2009 10:59:18 GMT -5
Unless we leave earth. We don't have to stay here. We might some day be the most well known race in the cosmos. Aliens will say
"hey remember those human people?"
"Yeah,"
"Yeah, they were pretty cool."
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 11:15:27 GMT -5
Unlikely. To get to another habitible planet we would have to travel billions of lightyears. I sincerely doubt if we meet any intelligent aliens who speak english will like us.... We just have to accept were buggered.  |
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 26, 2009 11:18:35 GMT -5
Why billions of light years? Who's to say that in a neiboring system there's another habitable planet.
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 12:09:33 GMT -5
Um. Neighboring systems are billions of light years away.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 26, 2009 12:27:29 GMT -5
Um. no.  Alpha Centauri, the next closest system is 4.37 light years away. |
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 12:42:07 GMT -5
Um.No. Pluto is 4 light years away.
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 26, 2009 12:55:08 GMT -5
Are you kidding? Light from pluto takes 5.5 hours to reach earth
so it's a tiny fraction of a light year
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 12:59:13 GMT -5
Im not kidding or making this up. Light from pluto takes 4 years to reach earth. Actaully look it up.
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Post by dbsndust on Apr 26, 2009 17:11:58 GMT -5
No, you look it up. It takes 8 minutes for the light from the sun to reach the earth. Definitely not a few months.
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Post by The Dark Master on Apr 26, 2009 17:14:21 GMT -5
I havent actually menyioned the Earth....
Anyway, aren't we meant to be talking about how buggered up we're going to be?
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Post by SilentWaves on Apr 26, 2009 17:58:20 GMT -5
I looked it up and i even did the math myself it would take a FRACTION of that time to get to pluto. lets say light travels 1 million miles a year (example) then alpha centuari is nearly 4 million miles away leaving pluto at not even 100,000 miles away!
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Post by GGoodie on Apr 26, 2009 18:52:46 GMT -5
yes, but it doesn't. Your math is flawed. Using ratios while putting in a variable that's wrong messes up the equation. And Acually Pluto is 5,913,520,000 km (39.5AU) from earth on average. Which is a tiny portion of a light year. Sooo....
If humans developed shuttles that could travel at almost the speed of light it probably wouldn't take billions of years to find another life supporting planet.
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Post by dbsndust on Apr 26, 2009 20:06:49 GMT -5
exactly 9,460,730,472,580.8 km (about 10 Pm)
about 5,878,630,000,000 international miles
about 63,241.1 astronomical units
about 0.306601 parsecs
The figures above are based on a Julian year (not Gregorian year) of exactly 365.25 days (each of exactly 86,400 SI seconds, totalling 31,557,600 seconds)[2] and a defined speed of light of 299,792,458 m/s, both included in the IAU (1976) System of Astronomical Constants, used since 1984.[3] The DE405 value of the astronomical unit, 149,597,870,691 m,[4] is used for the light-year in astronomical units and parsecs
How many light years is pluto from earth?
Answer:
The light from Pluto reaches the Earth in 5.5 hours, a tiny fraction of a light year.
Everything comes from wikipedia, tho second part is wikianswers.
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Post by Sandmaster on May 6, 2009 16:21:34 GMT -5
wikipedia is awesome, but what does that prove?
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Post by mattaroni on May 12, 2009 15:05:39 GMT -5
I'm wondering the same thing...
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Post by GGoodie on May 12, 2009 20:39:54 GMT -5
A lot. If a habitable planet with life, i know this is very unlikely, was in say, Alpha Centauri's system, it would be very possible to find extraterrestrial life within 100 years. With the rate technology advances, which is said to be that it double every year, we could be regularly planet hopping like it's nothing in this millennium.
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Post by Qwerty on May 12, 2009 21:54:42 GMT -5
Well, unless we plan on building a ship that can travel almost at the speed of light...
And taking an over four year journey just to get there...
The people on board would be all by themselves when they get there, too.
This is also assuming there is life there...
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