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Post by I wuv M4( Satar Jaèoèdoæ) on May 7, 2009 19:01:56 GMT -5
tamaflu.
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Post by GGoodie on May 7, 2009 21:12:20 GMT -5
Oh yes, thank you. For some reason i was thinking nyquil in my head, but i thought, no nyquil is a cold medicine.
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Post by dbsndust on May 7, 2009 22:01:19 GMT -5
Lol, JakeBob, I can't understand that. So anyway, it's Tamiflu and that is one of 2 flu treatments being sent out by the WHO.
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Post by GGoodie on May 7, 2009 22:24:10 GMT -5
Being sent out by who? [/bad pun] Yeah, this debate has really been turned into a news on h1n1 update kind of thread. We all just pretty much agree that it is overblown and shouldn't be fret over too much
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Post by dbsndust on May 7, 2009 22:25:40 GMT -5
wait what? obviously who is on first [/worsepun] Yea, this is really just a stupid thread by now.
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Post by GGoodie on May 7, 2009 22:27:30 GMT -5
this thread should be moved to maybe general chat, since we only talk about recent news on the swine flu.
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Post by dbsndust on May 7, 2009 22:56:59 GMT -5
Why? This thread was intended for debate, not chit-chat.
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Post by The Dark Master on May 8, 2009 2:05:31 GMT -5
If a pandemic occurs 1/3 of the population could catch it apparently.
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Post by jakebob on May 8, 2009 5:31:39 GMT -5
Ugh...
A pandemic is not something that causes a virus or disease or what have you to spread. A pandemic is the result of a virus spreading over a very large area. Note, result, not cause. I already explained that once.
Besides, this flu of the porcine variety isn't spreading like wildfire. Even though the media blew the whole thing WAY out of proportion, the Mexicans have been trying to contain it. Sure, there's people in the UK that might have it, but that's because the mexicans were dumb enough to let tourists go back to their country of origin. That is deserving of a pimp slap, I reckon.
Anyway, yeah. Debate, but don't panic.
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Post by The Dark Master on May 8, 2009 9:28:42 GMT -5
I wasn't saying that it was a cause JB, I was just saying that if it's killed enough people it would be a pandemic. The mexicans didn't see it seriously enough to close the airlines.
Even though the Sun menacingly proclaims: The whole of humanity is under threat, it should still be taken seriously.
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Post by dbsndust on May 8, 2009 17:32:52 GMT -5
Being a pandemic doesn't mean to be killing people. It just means that many people are afflicted.
The definition of a pandemic, from memory, is A disease that has spread over large regions and sickened a large proportion of the population.
If you don't trust my memory, which I certainly do, then go look it up. It's somewhere on a CDC vocabulary list.
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Post by GGoodie on May 8, 2009 18:29:00 GMT -5
No, i know it's meant for debate, but we really dont debate about the H1N1 noval flu anymore, now it's more about what is or isn't a pandemic.
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Post by jakebob on May 8, 2009 18:49:38 GMT -5
You believe what the bog-roll known as the Sun puts down? They're a tabloid, they'd exaggerate a girl losing her socks if it meant getting more sales.
And the way you phrased it made it sound like you were saying a Pandemic could cause a third of the population to get infected. Speaking of which, what is this "population" of which you speak? US? UK? Guam? Please, explain.
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Post by dbsndust on May 8, 2009 23:44:33 GMT -5
Pandemic: Area: A very large portion of the world, usually covering continents
By population, I meant that many of the people who live in the infected areas of the world will be sick, not just the 100 we have in the US and the thousand that were in Mexico City. To be a pandemic, say 2/3 of the population will contract the disease and it will have a 20% mortality rate or so.
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Post by The Dark Master on Jun 15, 2009 13:14:38 GMT -5
GV said we are allowed to revive Serious Debate topics, so I will for this one. It's still a major issue.
So, swine flu has killed the first British person, the first one to die of swine flu outside the Americas. Bugger. Now 4 Canadians have been killed of it, 27 USA people and 108 Mexicans. It has now spread to 75 countries and is now a pandemic.
Now, what do you think?
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Post by jakebob on Jun 15, 2009 14:42:47 GMT -5
GV said we are allowed to revive Serious Debate topics, so I will for this one. It's still a major issue. So, swine flu has killed the first British person, the first one to die of swine flu outside the Americas. Bugger. Now 4 Canadians have been killed of it, 27 USA people and 108 Mexicans. It has now spread to 75 countries and is now a pandemic. Now, what do you think? 140 deaths is not cause for alarm. Given that this "swine flu" has been around for a couple of months, and it took that long for such a small number of people to succumb to the virus, the chances of a large populace dieing before a cure or vaccine is made is atomically small. Once again, I say debate, but no panicking (causing or suffering)
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Post by The Dark Master on Jun 15, 2009 14:51:02 GMT -5
Yes, I do know. It's basically just another fancy word for the fact a disease has become more wisespread across continents or that world than an epidemic. Why do you always presume I am ignorant?
Last time there was a pandemic, it killed a couple of million in the UK alone. Despite vaccines, it's something bloody big to worry about. It'll almost die out it the summer and will return in the winter, were it's most lethal.
Also, viruses don't have 'cures'. Vaccines stop the advance of the virus in your body for a short while, and your immune system does the rest.
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Post by jakebob on Jun 15, 2009 15:07:40 GMT -5
Yes, I do know. It's basically just another fancy word for the fact a disease has become more wisespread across continents or that world than an epidemic. Why do you always presume I am ignorant? Last time there was a pandemic, it killed a couple of million in the UK alone. Despite vaccines, it's something bloody big to worry about. It'll almost die out it the summer and will return in the winter, were it's most lethal. Also, viruses don't have 'cures'. Vaccines stop the advance of the virus in your body for a short while, and your immune system does the rest. I removed that part, you were using it right. I tend to assume everyone on the web's ignorant, till they prove themselves otherwise. Much easier in the long run, I assure you. Generally, influenza dies down in the summer anyway, so swine flu's no different in that aspect. By winter a vaccine will be found, and British health care can help the infected fight off the virus. And while viruses don't have cures in the sense that you inject the patient and the anti-virus kills it, you can give people medicines to suppress the virus whilst the immune system attempts to destroy it. Vaccines stop a virus from infecting someone until it mutates, and a new vaccine has to be made. And life's too damn short to worry about pig phlegm. And technically speaking, a vaccine is a dead or heavily weakened form of a virus. It's injected, the immune system kills it and catalogs the virus so that when the real thing comes along, it's prepared.
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Post by The Dark Master on Jun 15, 2009 15:23:36 GMT -5
That's true, but the problem is we don't know how or when it mutates, and it mutate into a Killler Bunny much more more deadly virus.
Yes life is too short. If swine flu reaches me:
If I should die, think only this of me:
That theres some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England. I'll be back to get ya.
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Post by jakebob on Jun 15, 2009 15:34:59 GMT -5
That's true, but the problem is we don't know how or when it mutates, and it mutate into a Killler Bunny much more more deadly virus. Yes life is too short. If swine flu reaches me: If I should die, think only this of me: That theres some corner of a foreign field That is for ever England.I'll be back to get ya. By mutate, I mean some tiny bit in its cellular (if that) make-up will change, meaning the immune system won't have the correct anti-virus the next time it decides to ravage someone's body.
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