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Post by tristan on May 25, 2009 19:58:54 GMT -5
oh
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Post by I wuv M4( Satar Jaèoèdoæ) on May 25, 2009 20:27:04 GMT -5
oops. Sorry that I confused them.
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Post by tristan on May 26, 2009 15:53:33 GMT -5
Confused who?
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Post by I wuv M4( Satar Jaèoèdoæ) on May 27, 2009 19:06:31 GMT -5
the programming laungues.
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Post by tristan on Jul 6, 2009 17:56:06 GMT -5
Finished learning html, learning little java script. Gunna learn C++. w00t
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Post by darkraine on Jul 6, 2009 18:26:26 GMT -5
Sorry to burst your bubble . . . but HTML and Javascript are browser based coding languages, not programming languages, although nonetheless, congratulations (I know how hard they are to learn fully)
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Post by me2 on Jul 6, 2009 19:37:44 GMT -5
Sorry, to burst your bubble, DarkRaine, but Javascript is definitely a programming language. And you can make programs with it. For example the Google Apps "text and tables" are completely done with JavaScript. You just can't make stand-alone executables.
But you are right about HTML: This is just a markup language.
About learning a language:
BASIC (any kind), Java, ADA or Pascal/Delphi are maybe good languages to start with. But there are also a lot of games or programs with own languages which are perfect for learning some concepts.
JavaScript or PHP are a bad idea because they make a lot of trouble with small syntax errors and are harder to analyze.
C or C++ are very powerful, but they are very quickly getting quite complex and newbies can make too many stupid mistakes.
/me
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Post by ROBiT on Jul 6, 2009 19:51:12 GMT -5
Java is just as, if not more, complicated than C++. C is quite simple.
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Post by darkraine on Jul 6, 2009 21:17:12 GMT -5
well me2, then we'd have to get into a debate about the difference between scripting and programming, because they are actually slightly different, seeing as javascript is not a programming language, its a scripting language. Javascript needs to be interpretted by the script tags in html, even an externally saved javascript file is useless without being included somehow into HTML.
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Post by tristan on Jul 7, 2009 15:33:29 GMT -5
My mistake but we dont have to debate over it.
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Post by me2 on Jul 7, 2009 17:05:44 GMT -5
A scripting language is also a programming language. If you like Wikipedia: " A scripting language, script language or extension language is a programming language that allows control of one or more software applications." (Article Scripting language). Javascript has everything it needs to be a programming language, including Turing completeness. Writing code in Javascript is not much different from writing code in most modern programming languages. Just because Javascript needs an interpreter doesn't make a difference. Many languages do that. PHP, Perl, Lisp, and even Java is using an interpreter. And although languages like Pascal, C or BASIC are usually compiled they have also been used with interpreters. And finally: There are also compilers, which create binary executables from JavaScript! It is a typical characteristic of scripting languages that they are embedded in an application, and use the objects and elements of this application. For Javascript in a browser this is usually HTML. But actually there isn't that much difference to a normal Windows program. Such a program is using windows, forms, buttons and all that stuff of the operating system. It also can not work without the surrounding Windows, like Javascript can not work without some HTML stuff. HTML and CSS mainly describe some boxes and with Javascript you can move these boxes around, change their properties, add and delete new boxes and react to events. If you are doing GUI programming for Windows you are doing more or less the same. But anyway, this is not important for being a programming language. /me |
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Post by darkraine on Jul 7, 2009 21:26:02 GMT -5
Well, I don't want to turn this into too much of a debate, however, technically Javascript (and PHP, Perl, and Lisp) is just a scripting language, because they run a set of commands for a browser on the run (and for the other languages, the server as well) which is then interpreted by the language the browser was coded in which is then compiled, then interpreted by a virtual machine, while a programming language is compiled, then run by the virtual machine. Although I do agree that Javascript does have the same potential as a programming language, and hence none of this really matters, its just technical stuff.
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Post by tristan on Aug 6, 2009 20:17:06 GMT -5
yea
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