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Post by miczu on Jul 10, 2009 11:49:38 GMT -5
Well I'm definitely looking forward to your progress. As for me I have to big headache with programing now...
I made better beam (laser) collisions (that what you have is quite bad) - it will work now just like in PG.
As for now I can't make up mind how I will do the charger with that extra thing (spoiler: great for electronic). Hopefully I'll do think up a good way in couple of hours (or days).
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jul 10, 2009 12:26:01 GMT -5
YAY... Also... are we going to get a bigger screen?
And if possible can you also add clone... that shouldn't be too hard to program...
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Post by miczu on Jul 10, 2009 12:52:56 GMT -5
I decided to make charger before zoom and big screen and I trying to hold to it.
Clone would be quite easy but why do we need it? (We don't have any powders and such).
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jul 10, 2009 13:57:18 GMT -5
for laser and thunder... but then again crystal could be used for that...
Are you going to make any powders any time soon?
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Post by miczu on Jul 10, 2009 14:11:17 GMT -5
Powder can't move without wind (only down with gravity) and they aren't that much useful for technology.
I'm always thinking like 1-3 updates in future and for now I don't see powders in it.
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jul 10, 2009 14:42:15 GMT -5
oh okay...
Why can't you see it?
Anyways, I don't really mind as with all the new current elements we are getting...
Although C4 and stone would be nice for a laser AND gate...
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Post by whoknows on Jul 10, 2009 15:27:47 GMT -5
In the second design only the 1st one works due to space problems...
So you add 1 laser to the bottom like my other design.
Then at the top you add a thunder to the techno that is laser block (The right 1 of the pair)
There are 5 pairs, 1 for each # on the top which i can't add due to space restraints...
You fire a laser to the left aiming at the bottom techno.
The laser at the bottom changes which techno is laser block and makes the laser bounce left/down which hits a crystal that is laser charged and fires a laser up which bounces off some mirrors and starts hitting each techno. when you add the thunder, the techno stops being laser blocked and the laser can go in, hitting a crystal with thunder charge sending off a thunder which you could make through a series of wires, make a # on a #pad...
Long explanation but its not that hard to know....
I might make it easier to use....
Ill add a crystal where you hit thats like the 1 on the bottom...
Modified second design...
For add thunder to ONE of the crystals at the top... Its like choosing the # to x/+/-
Add 1 laser to a crystal with 2 torches at each side...
I didn't block the bottom so you could see how only 1 set of technos ever block laser...
Wait for the electricity to settle b4 you add a laser.
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Post by miczu on Jul 10, 2009 17:25:36 GMT -5
I really like the bottom part, it maybe hard to believe that someone could come up with something that precise, but you definitely can see that it works  PS. Game score: Laser collisions vs Miczu 1:2 win:Miczu charger vs Miczu 0:1 win:Miczu "special thing" vs Miczu 5:2 rematch: tommorow... |
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Post by whoknows on Jul 10, 2009 17:43:46 GMT -5
The bad thing is, it won't work in pg because as soon as thunder leaves the metal it falls, in this however it goes out 2 spaces... so there can be spaces in wiring, in pg ill fall through the breaks >.>
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jul 11, 2009 3:07:51 GMT -5
Yea, I also noticed that... this is one of the unique features of CS... Although PG has 31 elements (opposed to out 8) I think that this will become more popular... as someone updates it more... and eventually it could be updated by more than one person every few days  EDIT: I have made the little techno numpad... The problem is that it takes up the whole of the current screen to have the numbers 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 displayed... Instructions: Place a thunder dot on the epsilon wires leading to the crystal... The number of epsilon dots in the epsilon wire.... is the number that will be displayed if you put thunder on it... 1U0E0H1U0D0G1U0D0F9l0I071U0H0G5U0E0L1U0I0H1U0H0I1U0H0J5U0O0J5U0O0L5U0O0N1U0O0H1U0N0G9l0J079l0K07A9050JA9050KA9050LA9050MA9060LA9070MA9070LA9070KA9070JA9060JA9070N5U0E0JA9050NA9060N5U070H5U0E0N4X050G4X060D4X0E0M4X0E0K4X0H0T5U0H0S1U0D0S1U0C0S1U0B0R5U0I0T1U0H0U1U0I0V1U0J0W1U0K0W1U0F0O1U0K0P1U0L0O1U0G0P1U0H0P1U0L0G1U0K0F4X0K0V5U0K0U5U0L0V1U0L0T1U0M0S1U0N0S1U0Q0T4X0O0K1U0V0G1U0U0F1U0R0O1U0R0Q1U0T0N1U0U0P1U0S0N1U0N0F1U0R0I1U0R0J1U0S0H1U0R0G4X0O0M1U0V0O5U0O0B4X06065U0X0N5U0X0L4X0X0K4X0X0M5U0X0J5U0Y0K9l0e0X5U0a0C5U0Y0M9U0f0X9U0Q041U0e0Q1U0f0F1U0c0F1U0b0H5U0e0B1U0f0E9l0f0C1U0c0G1U0e0R1U0e0G1U0L0X1U0a0O1U0b0P1U0b0Q1U0d0P1U0P0U1U0M0Y1U0N0Y4X0d0X4X0a0X1U0Z0R1U0Y0Q4X0Y0X5U0Y0Y5U0a0Y5U0d0Y5U0X0X5U040H5U030H5U030I5U030J5U030K5U030L5U030M4X030N5U030O5U030P5U040P5U050P5U060P5U070P4X0P061U080E1U030F1U020E1U020D1U090D1U090C4X0S065U070G5U040G5U050F5U070D5U050D4X08085U07084X0I085U0J085U0E075U08074X0E081U0Q0Q1U010O1U000N5U0T064X0O0C4X03064X01065U00065U03055U01055U06055U0S059U0P051U0G0U1U0F0T9U0Q054X0e0C4X0b0C9l0f0B9l0f0A1U0G0C1U0H0B1U0H0A9l0R049U0g0A9U0h0A5U0O075U0Q071U0X0Y1U0W0Z1U0U0Z1U0T0Y1U0V0X1U0U0W5U0X0C5U0W0B9l0N0B9l0N0A9U0N099l0N089l0N079l0N0C4X0W0C1U0F031U0G021U0c031U0b02
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Post by miczu on Jul 11, 2009 6:19:40 GMT -5
Crystal Simulator 1.2DownloadNews: - better beam collisions - charger (make crystal hold thunder - like torch laser) - *special thing* *Special thing* prologue: Ok we have charger but I wonder what will happen when by crystal is torch and charger? Will torch dominate it or charger will win? Maybe it will explode or disappear? Maybe it will go berserker and game will crash or work not logical? Or maybe it will bring some new possibilities in technology?Well I was thinking quite a while what to do, but I decided to do the 4th choice (even truth berserker thing sound fun). What I come up was in my mind brilliant! What if the crystal with both by it side change a little... maybe basic law that need impair number of input change by little and it will go only with pair number of inputs  So now if charger and torch is by dot of crystal it work with pair number of input, changing this way from XOR to AND** gait!If number of torch by crystal is grater then chargers then it will hold laser (logically i think) and other way around too... All crystal with charge in 1 dot range behave still like One Crystal and if there is AND crystal then whole crystal structure change into AND crystal. Making it short we have now: OR gate - with metal only XOR gate - crystal AND gate - crystal with both torch and charger Enjoy** - with 2 inputs
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Post by Memzak BTW on Jul 11, 2009 9:01:03 GMT -5
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYA! YOU ARE A GENIUS! I LOVE YOU! <-Ignore I **AND GATE! that is only 3 pixels! WONDERFUL, I thought charger would add thunder.... but I never thought about if they are both together... This is brilliant! has the screen size increased? (I can't Download when I'm memzakBTW) What did you think of my techno num-pad? And, if possible... could you please make a C4 that explodes on impact with laser and thunder... (and if it is next to torch) because I'd like to make a C4 num-pad... Also, it shouldn't be too hard as C4 doesn't have to generate wind until you add wind... It can just dissapear! like on PG but without the wind! This would make a mush easier num-pad... And is there a sneak peek on future updates? |
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Post by whoknows on Jul 11, 2009 10:51:27 GMT -5
Even with charger the size of the thunder generators are still around the same size, loosing only a few dots, the AND gate is probably helpful but I'm not good with gates.
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Post by ggoodieontheroad on Jul 11, 2009 11:33:52 GMT -5
MICZU! STOP IT!
I barely have enough time to download 1.1, then 1.1A, then 1.1 fix, now 1.2! I can't keep up! in 7 days you'll probably have all the elements in. BTW: I think you should try and put in all the comonly used technology elements, incuding c4, and ant. Then instead of simulating crystal, thiscould be more for developing technologies. You could make your own powder game! but more for technology, and less for noobishness.
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Post by miczu on Jul 11, 2009 13:15:40 GMT -5
Yeah you right I need slowdown a little, other wise I will run out of good ideas before my vacations end and what I will do then? I'm doing it because I got bored with ~weak~ updates in PG so I shouldn't never make same mistakes...
As for next on, I'll probably do zoom and big screen, and next will be copy/paste or stone and c4... didn't decided yet...
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Post by whoknows on Jul 11, 2009 16:04:00 GMT -5
miczu, before in this thread you were talking about air and saying some fractions and stuff of which i have no idea what u say...
maybe this will help?
Its from the non element encyclopedia
Also i'm working on something in pg that's tech related...
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Jul 11, 2009 19:25:42 GMT -5
miczu...
I don't think you will ever run out of ideas...
also if this becomes popular enough....
we should make it mac friendly (since the only have one click and not three)
also I am Now making a forum for this... gives more room...
There will be the announcements board (for general anouncements)
A General Board...
A Crystal Simulator SHop
A about the site board
A Spam board
A Flam board
A Crystal Version Board (for announcing new versions)
An Ideas board, for new elements....
A welcome board
A help board
A Rules board
An Archive (for old threads that can't be posted in without being bumped)
(for staff):
A Staff board..
I know kinda offtopic....
I'm getting to it right now!
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Post by miczu on Jul 12, 2009 6:02:35 GMT -5
Here you have FULL ADDER made based on this picture:  It have ready test imputs (all 7 of them) so just load it and run :> 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 can run on highest frequency (only 1 dot of free space). So only thing you can try to do is to make it smaller  PS. Size: 25x12 (dots) |
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Post by The Dark Master on Jul 12, 2009 6:05:40 GMT -5
I can't seem to mkae anything move after I pressed start....Any help?
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Post by miczu on Jul 12, 2009 6:11:00 GMT -5
Are you using v1.2? Remember that there are check boxes that chose with speed you use (the most on the left is frame by frame mode). Try harder on pressing start button (if its selected you can use space or enter too).
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