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Post by jakebob on Jun 13, 2009 5:17:19 GMT -5
Right, I've got two things today. First off, topics on the SR board. kamrad posted this on the board, talking about the Seaside 4 level, and the enemies therein. But because the SR 4.4 topic had been made a couple of hours before, me2 was complaining that it was a duplicate thread. I've locked it for now, to avoid people bickering, but the topic creator, kamrad, thinks it should be unlocked because it's talking specifically about a level and not the update. Should it be unlocked? Second, this post by disabled. I've told him he could get in trouble because it's basically posting code from the game, and he's arguing that it's legal because: No I didn't! Because of all you whiners that it would be illegal and whatever, I wrote a programm that uses the class file (not the source code) and extracts the data without decompiling it. More effort, same result, equally legal but noone can cry about it. Should he be punished for this? |
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Post by Saza on Jun 13, 2009 6:31:01 GMT -5
Well, I don't think disabled should, but we'd have to see the code...
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Post by jakebob on Jun 13, 2009 6:55:19 GMT -5
Kay, here's the post for all to see: Nice update, I think the level is good balanced, so every team gets an equal challenge. Green Gel Walker
Lv: 24 LP: 300 GOLD: 40 EXP: 150 AT: 1-3 x1 Type: physical Duration: 0 RANGE: 150 Defense: 0
colors head: #ccff66 body: #669900 at: #ccff66
Silver Crystal v1: 3.3333333333333335%,
Seaside 4: 10x @stage 1, 10x @stage 1, 30x @stage 3, 30x @stage 4,
Green Roundhead Bat
Lv: 24 LP: 200 GOLD: 40 EXP: 150 AT: 1-3 x2 Type: physical Duration: 0 RANGE: 80 Defense: 0
colors head: #ccff66 body: #669900 at: #ccff66
Silver Crystal v1: 3.3333333333333335%,
Seaside 4: 20x @stage 2, 30x @stage 3, 30x @stage 4,
Brown Star Stickman
Lv: 25 LP: 400 GOLD: 80 EXP: 300 AT: 2-3 x9 Type: thunder Duration: 0 RANGE: 60 Defense: 0
colors head: #ffcc66 body: #ffffcc at: #ffcc33
Silver Crystal v2: 5.0%,
Seaside 4: 5x @stage 1, 5x @stage 2, 5x @stage 3, 5x @stage 4, 20x @stage 5,
Brown Boss Star Stickman
Lv: 27 LP: 6000 GOLD: 900 EXP: 2000 AT: 30-50 x1 Type: thunder Duration: 0 RANGE: 40 Defense: 0
colors head: #ffcc66 body: #ffffcc at: #ffcc33
Seaside 4: 1x @stage 5, Those Star Stickman have thunder damage, so they penetrate your defense! Especially the Boss with his 30-50 at can cause severe damage, so don't let him come close and/or use a purple crystal. Other changes are the Purple Gel-Trees are now lv25 (24) drop 150 Gold (120) and give 800 exp (600). Grey Boss Roundhead Walker drops the Critical's Card v2, Grey Boss Roundhead Snake the Explosion's Card v2 and the Blue Boss Gel-Dragon drops the Bullet's Card v2. I'm thinking he just used the odd font to make people look at it, but it's still got stats that aren't visible in-game, such as drop-rates, range, attack and defence. |
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Post by Saza on Jun 13, 2009 9:24:22 GMT -5
I don't really play Stick Ranger, so, I don't really know...
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Post by General Veers on Jun 13, 2009 9:40:23 GMT -5
Okay...things like this constitute the reasons that I will be taking a computer science class soon.
I'm going to ask TheListo about this at the soonest possible moment he comes on. I think I might already know his answer, but I just want to make sure with him first...
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 13, 2009 11:40:21 GMT -5
Okay, but in the meantime?
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Post by The Dark Master on Jun 13, 2009 12:28:19 GMT -5
I say just lock the thread and say it is under investigation.
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 13, 2009 14:27:54 GMT -5
Don't lock that thread, lock the duplicate one.
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Post by vaconcovat on Jun 13, 2009 16:12:27 GMT -5
Taking the classfile CAN be illegal. Depends on the copyrights and how you take it. He says that because he decompiled it he is safe, Im not quite sure about that one.
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 13, 2009 17:33:02 GMT -5
Should we at least delete that post?
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Post by General Veers on Jun 13, 2009 20:50:00 GMT -5
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 13, 2009 21:13:39 GMT -5
I guess that settles it.
That is Ha55ii's say.
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Post by vaconcovat on Jun 13, 2009 21:44:58 GMT -5
If that was stated in the terms and conditions, then what he did WAS illegal. It doesn't matter if listo says that he does not mind, That means nothing. It WAS illegal.
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 13, 2009 22:56:24 GMT -5
That wasn't in the terms and conditions. That was in the source code with all the .class files.
Notice, it specifically said "USE". He isn't actually using it, just viewing it and posting it.
That's the full file.
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Post by jakebob on Jun 14, 2009 3:45:09 GMT -5
Technically, isn't posting it for research "using" the code?
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 14, 2009 14:55:07 GMT -5
He means changing it and re-hosting it...
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Post by vaconcovat on Jun 14, 2009 16:35:39 GMT -5
Oh, ok i misunderstood. You found that in the source file? That is still of some concern...
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Post by Qwerty on Jun 14, 2009 23:48:30 GMT -5
I haven't even posted it for research. That was in the PG source code.
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No I didn't! Because of all you whiners that it would be illegal and whatever, I wrote a programm that uses the class file (not the source code) and extracts the data without decompiling it.
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