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Post by I wuv M4( Satar Jaèoèdoæ) on Feb 15, 2010 11:40:06 GMT -5
The only reason the molopoy senator got elected was because he was the SEXXIEST MAN IN AMERICA!
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Post by mattaroni on Feb 25, 2010 18:58:09 GMT -5
Wow, how can you follow a comment like that?
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Post by Skribbblie on Mar 30, 2010 20:43:16 GMT -5
The thing Republicans too often forget: The national debt STARTED with Bush. This wouldn't be a recession without his ***backwards tax policy (tax middle-class, tax cuts for the wealthy). And then there's healthcare reform. These Republicans state that they are Christians, yes? Can you honestly believe that Christ would say, "Oh no. Those people don't deserve healthcare."
As far as Obama: Good job so far, mate.
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Post by mattaroni on Apr 2, 2010 14:34:24 GMT -5
In all seriousness, OBAMA IS ONE OF THE WORST PRESIDENTS TO DATE! I struggle to recall a single beneficial thing that he's done for the country...
Yes, Bush was not perfect. However, Obama has simply amplified Bush's mistakes. Regarding healthcare, Republicans aren't cruel hearted people who want to deny coverage for the public. They simply don't want a bill that gives the government control over our well-being to be shoved down the throats of the American people (WHO OVERWHELMINGLY DISAPPROVE OF IT!).
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Post by ownedbyglove on Apr 10, 2010 9:31:39 GMT -5
I agree with mattaroni. The public didn't want this particular healthcare bill. Yes, they may have wanted SOME health-care reform, but hey, this isn't want by far most of the public wanted. I mean, wow. I find it unconstitutional in that it forces you to buy health care. The tenth amendment is broken in that. that is not a power given to them by the constitution, and should, being so be reserved to us. And those presidents didn't exactly associate with people that like teenagers selling themselves out there. Also, The thing Democrats too often twist: the debt started with several presidents some time ago, Bush simply amplified in on a far smaller scale than obama's rampant spending is now. And I HATE how Democrats always talk about how oh no. rich only tax cuts, poor get taxed! NO, THAT'S NOt TRUE! We give tax cuts for EVERYBODY!
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Post by Qwerty333 on Apr 21, 2010 17:42:17 GMT -5
All I will say is that since the healthcare bill passed, everybody is going to get insurance. Good for them! Hooray! But I don't want to study hard, go to college, be successful and make lots of money if a bunch of it is going to go to people who can't buy it! Sure, I feel sorry for them, but I'm not paying for it! How would you like it if you went trick or treating on Halloween, and instead of giving you candy, the guy at the door took half of your candy and gave to the fat lazy kids who don't want to go trick or treating? If you can deny or disprove anything I just said, I will give you a prize.
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Post by Air Alchemist 8 on Apr 22, 2010 18:00:11 GMT -5
I'm not really into politics, so I'm gonna try not to get too deep into this. However, I will say what I think.
First thing on my mind is this quote by Mattaroni:
Um...what about Hoover? One could say he caused the Great Depression. (even though really it was people buying so many things off of credit, but people still say he allowed it to happen) Why? This leads to the second thing on my mind, what you guys were saying earlier about keeping the natural order of things (good companies stay afloat, bad sink) and how the government shouldn't interfere: Hoover didn't do anything to stop it. He also believed in the Darwinian "natural selection" of industries (if I may call it that). And we learn from history. By my guess, because President Obama is a smart guy who is trying to do his best (no matter how much one may say he's ruining things). He was probably only trying to prevent it happening again by actually trying something. If he hadn't, the fall may have been so great we would need a WW3 to get us back up from our debts (and really, that wouldn't help anyone at all) like WWII helping us get out of the Great Depression (Which took FDR (not Hoover) 7 years to clean up after the war)
A third thing on my mind is towards Qwerty's last comment: I think that statement is flawed, one because the analogy doesn't work (they're not giving money to people who are already rich [the fat kids] from the people who can only flip burgers for their living, if even that [the kids who can barely get candy], that doesn't even begin to make sense), and two because people don't shove off college and education because somewhere down the line they can see that they'll lose money. The common person is far too short-sighted for something like that, and even if they weren't, whose to say that they'd actually get a job that makes them a high-class citizen and therefore lose money? And personally, using the fact of losing money as the basis for your argument seems a little greedy (or some term like that...) to me, but that's just how I see it.
Fourth, comparing President Obama to Bush and saying Bush was "Bad" but President Obama is much, much worse doesn't seem valid to me because, well...many, many people hated Bush to the extreme when he was president. So unless your argument is "Well, that only shows how much we hate Obama," saying something like that doesn't seem to support your arguments very much.
Thought number five (and my final thought about this for now) refers to anyone still bitter about passing a health care bill at all (if there is anyone). I just want to say that I think it'd be easier to cope with this one for a bit, and make amendments to the health care plan if it doesn't seem to work, instead of A - getting rid of it and thinking of something else, or B - wait even longer to think of an idea that works while more and more of the low-middle class fill up any remaining space in cemeteries because they can't get that surgery on their appendicitis problem or any other life-threatening problem they might have.
These are just some of the thoughts that came up in my mind as I was reading through this. I do not put President Obama on any type of special pedestal, except for the fact that he is the President, and anyone in the armed forces would take a bullet for him and I show the proper respect he deserves as President (Like calling him President Obama). Nor do I put myself as being any type of expert in history or politics, as I'm not too good at history, and I'm not very interested in politics as I can not even vote as of yet (unless of course there's a topic that directly affects people my age) Again, I mean no offense to anyone, these are just my thoughts which may or may not be flawed.
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Post by Qwerty on Apr 23, 2010 0:30:25 GMT -5
I said no such thing!
Oh, the other Qwerty.
Well, I may as well give my input while I am here.
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Post by Qwerty333 on Apr 27, 2010 18:09:24 GMT -5
Fourth, comparing President Obama to Bush and saying Bush was "Bad" but President Obama is much, much worse doesn't seem valid to me because, well...many, many people hated Bush to the extreme when he was president. So unless your argument is "Well, that only shows how much we hate Obama," saying something like that doesn't seem to support your arguments very much. A) Everyone seemed to hate Bush, yet both he and his father were elected twice? B) I'm a republican, obviously, and I'm going to agree with you that Bush made some stupid mistakes, as all Presidents will. C) Everyone has a different opinion on this kind of topic, so it will never be possible to have a president that everyone likes, while it is definitely possible to have a president that everyone hates...
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