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Post by V.I.R.O.S. on Sept 21, 2009 15:14:37 GMT -5
How do you feel about it?
1. With their consent?
2. Without their consent?
3. Good parts?
4. Bad parts?
5. List some modifications you might like. (Remember, this only works by transferring individual chromosomes, genes, and alleles from other living things, so because their are no psychic animals or plants, no psychic people can be made. And it also only works if you can find a DNA sample of the respective organism, so you can't get T-Rex scales and stuff...)
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1. I think it seems reasonable WITH their consent.
2. This just shouldn't be allowed at all. Ever. Period.
3. Curing diseases, bettering the human race to it's environment.
4. Possibly making new diseases, causing immense pain as the person in question "metamorphosizes"
5. Photosynthesis would really drop my need for sleep (being green wouldn't be too bad), probably a koi gene to make me live longer, definitely a regeneration gene, and while we're at it, a disease resistance gene would be really nice...)
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Post by KuraiOorora on Sept 21, 2009 15:26:25 GMT -5
It would depend.....when you modify the genetic chromosomes of an animal, it is almost like creating a new species. There is the case of natural selection......
As one species of an animal travel to a different area, they evolve and adapt to that environment. There is also the fact that those species tend to become unable to reproduce with the other species naturally.
If we tried to modify the genetic features of a human, we can't be sure if they will be able to reproduce with normal humans that are not the same in DNA structure. If we did this method to the next generation with every human born, there could be a possibility we our destroying our own species being as we cannot reproduce normally........
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Post by SilentWaves on Sept 22, 2009 20:25:58 GMT -5
Well really this happens every day... Medicines are exactly this except a lower extremity. Steriods are as well. SOme fish are too as they increase something in your brain making you smarter.
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Post by General Veers on Sept 22, 2009 20:34:05 GMT -5
I don't know what you mean in that medicines and other drugs alter the genetic map of humans.
Yes, we undergo constant mutations almost every time a generation comes to exist, but these are generally not enough to change our special indication (i.e. our species as Homo sapiens sapiens).
I am unsure as to how gene therapy works, but to the extent of my knowledge it is otherwise impossible or difficult to alter the genetic map of a mature specie. A zygote would have to be synthesized with great care...
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Post by KuraiOorora on Sept 23, 2009 15:16:44 GMT -5
Such research is considered as stem-cell research, and was originally thought of as humanely wrong and severely frowned upon during president Bush's term due to the fact that you are altering a possible human child in the future, which conflicts with the most common religion (Catholicism) in the United States. That is why I preferred McCain because Obama supported such an inhumane research.......now that he's president, who knows how the stem-cell resarch operations will be taken....
As for those not in America, I'm not aware of how advanced they are in such research, but it could indeed lead to new cures for diseases and genetic enhancements for the modern human....but is it worth the risk of numerous human beings that could of made a difference in the world? I ask that question to those who support the matter....
In the case of modern medicine and things such as steroids: Those are outside things that take time to have an actual effect. We are talking about features that a human could become potentially born with, whether it be strength, intelligence, emotions, etc.....
You know not of the irreversible effects this could have on humanity. Say if this disease got loose into a city such as New York. What if this disease was infectious, or airborne for that matter? A disease can mutate into something far worse than its original form.....
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Post by The Dark Master on Sept 23, 2009 15:26:40 GMT -5
Well, for the world outside America, we've so far managed to identify the difference between a dog and a cat, thank you very much.
I wouldn't exactlly describe stem cell research as inhumane, because it's human nature. We are constantly trying to improve things. If it was used to find new cures for various tropical diseases, I would approve it. Genetically modifying the human body so it's 'better' and 'stronger' seems like something out of a sci-fi movie, and would be another human killing machine.
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Post by KuraiOorora on Sept 23, 2009 16:23:12 GMT -5
If you count the fact you are virtually killing an unborn fetus as human nature that is......
But when you think of it this way: Would you rather lose the lives of some to find cures for diseases that will save the lives of many?
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Post by SilentWaves on Sept 23, 2009 18:07:10 GMT -5
considerign a lot of those uborn humans are going to be aborted i think that may be better.
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Post by Sandmaster on Sept 28, 2009 12:35:42 GMT -5
If you count the fact you are virtually killing an unborn fetus as human nature that is...... But when you think of it this way: Would you rather lose the lives of some to find cures for diseases that will save the lives of many? It's people like you which make me support Euthanasia. |
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Post by KuraiOorora on Sept 30, 2009 17:48:50 GMT -5
I'm guessing that was a compliment....?
Anyways......I believe stem-cell research is fine until you start abusing it....such as the case with trying to clone a human being....
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Oct 1, 2009 2:05:04 GMT -5
5. Photosynthesis, the koi gene and many others would be nice.... but one I think we'll definitely need is the gene from our fellow pest, the cockroach... a nuclear radiation gland protein producers thing gene... (basically a specific protein in our blood to protect us from nuclear radiation) especially with all these nuclear bombs and missiles waiting to go off...
stem cell research is VERY interesting so far they can use stem cells to cure a gap in your spine if it is broken and enable your legs again... Although this would require surgery and LOTS of money...
On a site note what I found cool about stem cells is that they can make the a nerve connecting to another nerve to enable using a surgically placed body part from either another human or animal.... like the human ear attached to the side of a mouse... (cruel but the mouse could actually use the ear) Imagine the possibilities!
ALSO... earlier in the first post about regenerative genes, they have found one... but it will still take a decade or so to finished testing it and make the final product.... every wondered why starfish grew back their cut off legs? or lizards their tails? Now imagine growing back a finger of a month or two? or a leg in a year?
It would still be slow compared to wolverine... but I'd take it!
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Post by SilentWaves on Oct 2, 2009 7:45:28 GMT -5
Clones are impossible. You could show me a clone and i will tell you it is not real because it is impossible for it to have the same personality as its counterpart as physical features as well as mental features are shaped by your past and therefore you cant have two human beings exactly the same.
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Post by The Dark Master on Oct 2, 2009 9:24:09 GMT -5
Well, I am living proof that you be wrong SilentWaves, as I be the same person exactly as my twin.We have identical genes and basically identical backgrounds, so I be proof that we can have 2 people exactly the same.
If we could photosynthesise, most of us could fulfil our dreams of being able to eat and sleep at the same time...Probably ain't gonna happen though...
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Post by Paradox on Oct 2, 2009 15:23:28 GMT -5
Besides, everything you see, hear, smell, think, etc. leave a tiny imprint on your brain.
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 2, 2009 17:41:49 GMT -5
I'm guessing that was a compliment....? Euthanasia=Assisted Suicide. So no, it wasn't a compliment. |
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Post by V.I.R.O.S. on Oct 3, 2009 9:28:45 GMT -5
Erm.... I support doctor-assisted suicide. If someone wants to die, they have a right to do so. Think about it. Would you rather find a family member splattered against a wall after blowing their brains out, or would you rather have some time to talk to them as they drive to the "suicide doctor"?
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Post by General Veers on Oct 3, 2009 18:45:04 GMT -5
Clones are impossible. You could show me a clone and i will tell you it is not real because it is impossible for it to have the same personality as its counterpart as physical features as well as mental features are shaped by your past and therefore you cant have two human beings exactly the same. No, clones are very possible and exist. The popular perception of a "human copy" with the same exact personality, age, and physical make-up is impossible. A clone is simply a daughter cell that is exactly the same as the zygote it came from, and ergo grows into an organism with the same genetic map as its parent. Identical twins are organisms that originated as cells that used to be one single parent cell. Identical twins, even if they grew up with contrasting personalities, are essentially clones of each other, if not of the parents.
If you count the fact you are virtually killing an unborn fetus as human nature that is...... But when you think of it this way: Would you rather lose the lives of some to find cures for diseases that will save the lives of many? It's people like you which make me support Euthanasia. I do not see your point...
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 4, 2009 14:48:46 GMT -5
Rethinking it, I would have said something like 'death penalty' because there are too many idiots in this world and either I die due to prolonged exposure or I support theirs.
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Post by ONYX on Dec 17, 2009 8:43:14 GMT -5
Such research is considered as stem-cell research, and was originally thought of as humanely wrong and severely frowned upon during president Bush's term due to the fact that you are altering a possible human child in the future, which conflicts with the most common religion (Catholicism) in the United States. That is why I preferred McCain because Obama supported such an inhumane research.......now that he's president, who knows how the stem-cell resarch operations will be taken.... As for those not in America, I'm not aware of how advanced they are in such research, but it could indeed lead to new cures for diseases and genetic enhancements for the modern human....but is it worth the risk of numerous human beings that could of made a difference in the world? I ask that question to those who support the matter.... In the case of modern medicine and things such as steroids: Those are outside things that take time to have an actual effect. We are talking about features that a human could become potentially born with, whether it be strength, intelligence, emotions, etc..... You know not of the irreversible effects this could have on humanity. Say if this disease got loose into a city such as New York. What if this disease was infectious, or airborne for that matter? A disease can mutate into something far worse than its original form..... Like the virus on MGS4 that kept mutating D:. Anyway, I hate stem cell research. It's disgusting. Killing human fetus's to better cripples... I think theres a much better way. As for Modifying Humans. It would just be creating a new species. And Modifying like your talking about. Is well, Fairly impossible. I mean We do Not have the tech. Atleast I just don't know about it...  |
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Post by izacque on Dec 18, 2009 13:43:49 GMT -5
how do you gen-mod somebody? is it actually possible, or is this just a hyothetical debate? If it's hypothetical, then I say:
1. absolutely
2. NEVER
3. people can make themselves live longer, resist infection, cure genetic diseaeses
4. people can make themselves suer-strong and have scales, and armor and be epic serial killers. governments could turn it into a virus and use it as a weapon.
5. I'd like to see different kinds of light. I'd like to have straight photographic memory. I'd like to never have to sleep. I'd like to be able to maintain body tempurature in any circumstance (within reason, of course)
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