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Post by izacque on Dec 18, 2009 13:35:20 GMT -5
at what point did the scientists stop calling it the big bang and start calling it an expanding universe? technically the big bang is still going on if you subscribe to that theory. Anyway, you're just confirming that black holes do not have infinite mass. does anyone other than the Pin-Headed Dopes that call themselves physicists actually believe that black holes can have infinite mass?
density that can be fit into mass?
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Post by General Veers on Dec 18, 2009 15:52:39 GMT -5
Infinite isn't even an amount. Its been debated for years and is loses every time. Infinity cannot be obtained. Infinity can be used if an amount is too high to comprehend. But numbers have no limits. You can always fit more dense material in a small amount of mass. They say all the matter in the universe came from the big bang. Which happened in 10 to the 42nd power seconds. 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds. And it happened within an extremely small mass. Some may say the mass.... Gah I confused myself. I forget what that small timescale is called. The Plurak. Idk It starts with P. Anyway. Back on topic. The reason I brought this up we may have thought that density was infinite. But in fact is was just some realy high amount. Anyone know if theres a amount of density that can be fit into a unit of mass. Dought it exists but wth. The thing that begins with a "P" is the Planck constant, which describes the "step" between energy values and is also less than or equal to double the product of the uncertainty of position and the uncertainty of momentum of an entity (ergo meaning that there will always be uncertainty in both position and momentum, and that their certainties are inversely proportional to each other, i.e. the less certain you are of momentum, the more certain you are of position). In time, may I be correct, the Planck time is the shortest, meaningful amount of time that can ever be measured with any certainty at all. The approximate value as of now, according to Wikipedia, is 5.4 * 10 -44 seconds, not 10 -42 seconds as you stated. Honestly, I'm not sure I fully comprehend what you typed. Are you trying to state that we had a finite amount of mass, and that black holes aren't the densest possible things (if all matter was originally concentrated in a single entity one Planck time after the Big Bang)? From those statements, are you confirming that indeed the density is not infinite within black holes (or the universe one Planck time after the Big Bang), but merely beyond human measure?
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Post by xShadowLordx on Apr 9, 2010 23:32:29 GMT -5
*facepalm* Oh my God, are you guys really this stupid??? I'm sorry, but this is just pathetic. Why was this thread even started? ? Everyone knows black holes don't have infinite mass! They simply have a large enough mass that it somehow causes them to collapse in on themselves, that's all. Seriously, I learned this in freaking 8th grade.
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Post by General Veers on Apr 10, 2010 0:20:56 GMT -5
Don't flame. Of all users, myself excluded, you should know better than that.
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Post by xShadowLordx on Apr 10, 2010 10:26:47 GMT -5
Oh, I wasn't trying to be mean or flame. I was just kind of mad. Sorry about that.
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Post by Air Alchemist 8 on Apr 10, 2010 12:56:52 GMT -5
but seriously, why are you guys still discussing this? we found our answer in a logical fashion that really can't be denied. so...kinda beating a dead horse, no?
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