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Post by Pir8ozzy on Mar 27, 2010 14:43:21 GMT -5
Whether an element ‘can kill or not’ is an important difference. That makes it a partial match.
If TheListo actually made the updates he would be able to exactly state what he was going to code himself, before it is uploaded to the site. However this has never happened.
Is the name ‘TheListo’ printed in that blog? Because if not, there is no evidence there either.
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Post by General Veers on Mar 27, 2010 15:00:46 GMT -5
Outside of the knowledge of knowing for certain, why care if TheListo is or is not a Dan-Ball programmer? If he isn't, we can merely take out the word "Official" from the forums. If he is, then you're wrong. So what if you are wrong? So what if you are right? As a matter of fact, aren't there better things we could be doing than arguing about something that will have little overall effect?
Maybe our suggestion of Hg has nothing to do with its existence in the game. Maybe nothing we considered or suggested had any effect in any of the Dan-Ball games.
Quite frankly, whether or not we are truly official, we will still likely populate the forums. Maybe you will too, maybe you won't. It's a place in the World Wide Web for people to discuss Dan-Ball related things without all the spam of the comment boards, and the inclusion or exclusion of the word "Official" won't change that.
If you want, you can instead refer to us as the "Purportedly Official Dan-Ball Forums" (PODBF). That will be true so long as someone, whether truly or falsely, considers/supposes/purports these forums as "official."
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Post by notfunny103 on Mar 27, 2010 17:32:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure if TheListo is the programmer because there's a lot of things that are left unexplained...
-How did he meet ha55ii if he can't speak Japanese?
-Why isn't he listed in the Profile page? It seems like anyone would want, and require, ha55ii to put their name in the Profile page. Exspecially if they are not being payed.
-Mercury was already an idea, before the ODBF came up with it.
-There is no real proof that he is the programmer
I don't really care if he's not the programmer, but I think that it is wrong to take credit for someone elses work; exspecially if it's one of the really great games like powder game...
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Post by Qwerty on Mar 27, 2010 17:58:26 GMT -5
All large issues, yes, but he has proven that he is the programmer to me. However, clearly my word isn't enough, so what he has to do is prove, somehow, that he is the programmer. Then we can settle this.
Vert, I'm sure you can write a simple message that should fit.
Simply: We could have a sample of a minor comment in the code (not enough to actually violate the contract that says he can't do that or tell us what the update is) in the Members section. From there we can check before and after to see if the code is in the source. He would have to tell us the .class, of course.
Also, I'd like to introduce you to the Official Dan-Ball Grandma. She makes excellent cookies and also has ideas for Ha55ii.
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Post by Randomness on Mar 27, 2010 18:42:23 GMT -5
Having the word "official" is as good as calling this a wiki. I could not care less if TheListo is a programmer or not. This is like 100 times better then the Dan Ball comment boards. Let just keep the noobs out and search else where. Guess how I found out about this site, Maplestory off topic board. For anyone who still have their runescape account from like 10 years ago, they had an update where F2P accounts can go on the forum depending on total levels (my bro plays so I keep up with this stuff even though I hate the game myself) so we could post in the off topic board there also. Why spread the word to a place that already know about the game? If TheListo program it and this is "official" then the admin should not care if we redirect players to the site from here. If anything he should be happy as we getting more players to play the game. |
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Post by notfunny103 on Mar 27, 2010 23:08:49 GMT -5
If anything he should be happy as we getting more players to play the game. I'm not saying this site is bad, I'm just saying that if TheListo is not the real programmer then he should stop saying he is. |
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Post by GGoodie on Mar 28, 2010 0:04:14 GMT -5
He's proven it beyond a doubt to me personally, that's all I'll say. No it's not... you could tell us how and when.... As a matter of fact, aren't there better things we could be doing than arguing about something that will have little overall effect? Aren't there more important things we could be doing then going on the forum at all? It's merely a discussion about dan-ball, which is better than having this same amount of posts go to waste in the spam board. |
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Post by Qwerty on Mar 28, 2010 0:47:27 GMT -5
Random, I really don't see what you are getting at. You seem to be supporting an argument that isn't involved in this discussion.
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Post by -M4- on Mar 28, 2010 2:28:49 GMT -5
If any one cares so much to argue about it, why doesn't he just stick his name in the little comments in the programming and all the hackers out there go fetch it out?
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Post by Qwerty on Mar 28, 2010 2:56:21 GMT -5
I assume Ha55ii reviews that. Plus the thingy makes most of the code lost in decompilation.
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Post by vaconcovat on Mar 28, 2010 4:51:27 GMT -5
So far, i believe that listo is a fraud. But, honestly, i couldn't care less. I actually come here for the community. It is once of the best Internet communities i've ever been involved in.
And qwerty, "Plus the thingy makes most of the code lost in decompilation." Is a VERY professional statement.
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Post by Pir8ozzy on Mar 28, 2010 6:25:03 GMT -5
The main reason TheListo's fraud annoyed me is that he took credit for someone else's work.
It probably takes a lot of effort to create such a great game, and Ha55ii does not deserve to get his credit stolen. Its just not fair on him.
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