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Post by iradz on Nov 22, 2008 6:35:36 GMT -5
Yonder reported at the wiki that the castle boss dropped both Vampire's Card and ONIGIRI's Card at the same time for him. /meI can vouch for that, it happened to me last night.
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Post by jakebob on Nov 22, 2008 7:56:02 GMT -5
Can I help?
I did a run of Opening Street, with level 9-10 rangers, and got this stuff (my inventory was clean at the time):
3xMach Punches 2xIron Swords 4xTriple Arrows 1xExplosion 3xSttaffs of Wood 1xGreen Stone
Drop rates have changed, but I somehow doubt it specifically meant lowered :S
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Post by me2 on Nov 22, 2008 9:17:10 GMT -5
Yes, this helps, but you should read the following section in my initial post, to understand, why I'm not completly happy: What is the wrong way to measure probability? (click the date) Also we will at least need 10 complete Grassland 1 runs, to build a statistic. /me
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Post by bewnt on Nov 22, 2008 10:05:53 GMT -5
Yonder reported at the wiki that the castle boss dropped both Vampire's Card and ONIGIRI's Card at the same time for him. /meTalk about luck... Not so much luck as an insight into how the drops are coded. With this update it just may be possible that an enemy is able to drop both a compo and a weapon at the same time.
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Post by iradz on Nov 22, 2008 13:49:11 GMT -5
Ok, here are the drops of my ten runs of GL1
Run 1: 3x Poison Bow Run 2: 2x Black stone 2x Ice orb 1x Red crystal Run 3: 2x Ice orb 3x Poison Bow 1x Quicks card Run 4: 2x Poison bow 1x Red Crystal 1x Fire sword 1x Thunder Glove Run 5: 3x Poison bow 3x Thunder Glove Run 6: 4x Poison Bow 1x Red crystal 1x Fire sword 2x Thunder Glove Run 7: 1x Fire sword 1x Poison bow 2x Thunder Glove Run 8: 1x Black stone 1x Fire sword 3x Thunder glove 1x Quick's Card Run 9: 2x Ice orb 1x Black stone Run 10: 1x Black stone 1x Poison bow 2x Ice orb Totals: 14x Poison Bow 5x Black stone 8x Ice orb 3x Red crystal 2x Quick's Card 4x Fire sword 11x Thunder glove
Total items: 48
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Post by General Veers on Nov 22, 2008 14:17:50 GMT -5
When I counted what you had for your individual runs, you had 17 poison arrows and said you had 14. Which is it?
Also, you summed the total number of items. If there were 14 poison arrows, the total should have been 47; if there were 17 poison arrows, the total should have been 50.
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Post by iradz on Nov 22, 2008 14:22:44 GMT -5
When I counted what you had for your individual runs, you had 17 poison arrows and said you had 14. Which is it? All your other counts match, so I presume you simply summed incorrectly (by forgeting the 3 from your first run towards the top of your post?). Yeah you're right, sorry about that.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 22, 2008 14:28:24 GMT -5
That's alright, I just wanted to make sure nothing incorrect got through. Also, I just completed 10 runs of the Boss level of GL6. Looking for weapons and compo items, all I received was a lone ice pencil. I was intending on searching for a Bullet's Card, but figured I may as well report everything I find for every ten runs I do.Never mind, I remembered that during one of the runs I got one of my guys killed.
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Post by bewnt on Nov 22, 2008 21:25:30 GMT -5
That's alright, I just wanted to make sure nothing incorrect got through. Also, I just completed 10 runs of the Boss level of GL6. Looking for weapons and compo items, all I received was a lone ice pencil. I was intending on searching for a Bullet's Card, but figured I may as well report everything I find for every ten runs I do.Never mind, I remembered that during one of the runs I got one of my guys killed. You should still report all data you got from the other 9 runs. Alright time for some fun PART III! I farmed at the Castle for EXP until I levelled up, to find the drop rate of $, Onigiri, Vampire's Card and Onigiri's Card. V2.4. Runs | 31 | $1000 | 12 | Onigiri | 9 | Vamp Card | 6 | Oni Card | 2 |
The occurance of Vamp Card is probably a little low. Combining Parts II and III: Runs | 51 | $1000 | 19 | Onigiri | 13 | Vamp Card | 11 | Oni Card | 3 |
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Post by General Veers on Nov 22, 2008 22:31:20 GMT -5
From my other nine runs, I got nothing 8 times and a single ice pencil one time.
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Post by soccerking on Nov 23, 2008 12:28:16 GMT -5
I was wondering about the GL 7 Boss. I have skipped all of the levels until him about 7 times, and he has not dropped a card yet. (Can't remember which card it is) I'm just wondering if there is a higher chance if you don't skip the other levels of it.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 23, 2008 12:41:47 GMT -5
GL7 Brown boss wheel drops the Explosion card.
I'm not sure whether skipping decreases drop rate as some kind of anti-cheat device or something, but until we can see and understand the program, Schroedinger and others say that we will never truly know.
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Post by soccerking on Nov 24, 2008 14:28:55 GMT -5
I got one of the cards, but it took longer than the statistics I read above.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 24, 2008 15:50:02 GMT -5
Have the statistics been made in V2.4? Statistics have since changed, and card gathering has become difficult. Especially if you are looking for three bullets cards. I leveled from lower-level 18 to level 19, from 19 to 20, and from 20 to 20.97 looking for all three bullets cards. On several runs I have died.
The above is not meant to be interpreted as drop statistics, but only to show how frustrating it was for me.
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Post by soccerking on Nov 25, 2008 12:02:22 GMT -5
Lol, I only had to kill the castle boss 5 times until I got the onigri card, but i don't have a boxer. Would it be best to put it on a triple arrow sniper, poison sniper, gladiator, or magician with fire/thunder?
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Post by bewnt on Nov 25, 2008 22:30:35 GMT -5
Lol, I only had to kill the castle boss 5 times until I got the onigri card, but i don't have a boxer. Would it be best to put it on a triple arrow sniper, poison sniper, gladiator, or magician with fire/thunder? ONIGIRI's card can only be equipped on melee characters. That narrows your choices down to... *drumroll* ... ... ... Gladiator.
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Post by General Veers on Nov 26, 2008 0:10:41 GMT -5
At first what you (soccerking) said baffled me, and I didn't know how to respond.
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Post by bewnt on Nov 26, 2008 8:09:22 GMT -5
At first what you (soccerking) said baffled me, and I didn't know how to respond. Do forgive him. Many people, upon obtaining their first ONIGIRI's Card, knowing how coveted it is, don't even dare to touch it in fears of losing it after all their hard work. Hence, they do not know that it doesn't fit on ranged characters, especially if their ranged characters are already equipped with compo items (which is very likely).
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Post by General Veers on Nov 26, 2008 13:25:17 GMT -5
True, although I didn't necessarily find fault with him.
I also kept an ONIGIRI's Card until I read this thread, tested on a sniper and magician, and realized this thread was right.
My apologies...
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Post by me2 on Dec 1, 2008 15:33:17 GMT -5
Only looking for Bullet's Card and money at the Grassland 6 Boss: Number of runs or boss fights | 20 | Bullet's Card drop(s) | 3 | 300 money | 5 | Onigiri | 6 |
(SR ver2.4) Ehm, is there something wrong with the GL6 Boss? I got three bullet's cards within the first three runs!!! This was excatly how much I needed, because I wanted to create a Bullet's Card screenshot, with triple arrow, double arrow, and thunder orb on one screen, and I already was using those weapons. BTW: It is now also possible for the castle boss to drop no card.
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