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Post by General Veers on Dec 1, 2008 15:43:26 GMT -5
Statistics have since changed, and card gathering has become difficult. Especially if you are looking for three bullets cards. I leveled from lower-level 18 to level 19, from 19 to 20, and from 20 to 20.97 looking for all three bullets cards. On several runs I have died. Only looking for Bullet's Card and money at the Grassland 6 Boss: Number of runs
or boss fights | 4 | | Bullet's Card drop(s) | 3 | | 300 money | 1 | | Onigiri | 0 |
(SR ver2.4) Ehm, is there something wrong with the GL6 Boss? I got three bullet's cards within the first three runs!!! This was excatly how much I needed, because I wanted to create a Bullet's Card screenshot, with triple arrow, double arrow, and thunder orb on one screen, and I already was using those weapons.
The eleventh run was my first bullets card, and I lost count for the other ones! All else I know was that the last run was my third Bullets card!
Exclamation marks!!!Okay, I think my heartrate is dropping now...I'm good. |
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Dec 8, 2008 1:29:21 GMT -5
Yea, he is lucky those things are rare...
but now I have to look all over again for weapons not from the shop to get 2 compo items...
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Post by me2 on Dec 9, 2008 18:56:43 GMT -5
| Castle Boss Runs | 30 | | Onigiri | 1 | | Vamp Card | 13 | | Vamp Card+Onigiri | 0 |
(ver2.5) /me |
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Dec 10, 2008 1:11:43 GMT -5
Wow...
It took you 30 runs to get the Onigiri card....
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Post by General Veers on Dec 10, 2008 15:39:56 GMT -5
Actually, it's quite possible that his seventh run got him the ONIGIRI's card, but the other runs failed to do so.
Same logic applies with a different number in place of "seventh" with the exception of "thirtieth."
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Post by bewnt on Dec 10, 2008 23:22:50 GMT -5
Actually, it's quite possible that his seventh run got him the ONIGIRI's card, but the other runs failed to do so. Same logic applies with a different number in place of "seventh" with the exception of "thirtieth." Spot on. me2 wasn't finding out the number of runs needed to get the Onigiri's card, he did a set number of runs, which is more reliable. |
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Dec 11, 2008 10:50:24 GMT -5
Yea... But I would like to know on which run he actually got it on...
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Post by me2 on Dec 11, 2008 19:05:12 GMT -5
I think it was somewhere between the 8th and the 15th run and I think it was more likely a number below 10 ...
But I don't remember anymore.
/me
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Post by General Veers on Dec 13, 2008 19:16:02 GMT -5
25 Castle Gate runs
1 Critical Card
~4% chance of getting a Critical Card
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Post by kierovnick on Dec 13, 2008 20:50:34 GMT -5
I have just made my 30 runs through Castle Boss to compare my luck with me2..
Heres what i've got:
1000$ - 11
Onigiri - 3
Vampire - 16
Empty runs - 6
The above included
3 runs with 1000$ + Vamp
1 run with 1000$ + Oni
1 run with 1000$ + Oni + Vamp
This one means.. that i have to make more runs because i have got 10% chance of getting Oni card
This one ofcourse is to version 2.6
Well.. now o gotta go sleep.. tomorrow i'll make another 50 runs.
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Post by ~Memzak~ on Dec 14, 2008 8:01:03 GMT -5
wow you got oni + vamp + 1000$...
Lucky..
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Post by kierovnick on Dec 14, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -5
And as i've promised.. 50 runs of Castle Boss. 15 x 1000$ 5 x Onigiri 13 x Vampire 22 x Nothing at all Soo.. i still have 10% to get onigiri.. Where have i seen that it is about 5%? Well.. nevermind.... The other thing i have'n mentioned yet is.. i made through CastleGate Boss 50 times.. And that's what i have found: 19 x 500$ 2 x Critical not much.. but i have enough of this card anyway  I am now waiting for few more levels, so i could get more than 1 exp for kill.. |
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Post by General Veers on Dec 14, 2008 14:15:29 GMT -5
2*Critical for 50 runs (Kierovnick)
1*Critical for 25 runs (General Veers [me])
That's nearly a perfect match! Indeed it seems that there is a 4% chance of getting a Critical's Card!
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Post by annalisa on Dec 14, 2008 18:43:14 GMT -5
I was running Grassland 3 and Grassland 6 for the cards and here is what I got-
Grassland 3: 11 runs and zero cards
Grassland 6: 13 runs and 1 card
I will probably be doing some more item farming for my party later, this is not the end of me!
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Post by General Veers on Dec 14, 2008 21:28:04 GMT -5
I did 100 runs of Castle Gate level BOSS and received this result:
100 runs: 6 Critical's Cards
Runs 13, 23, 29, 73, 90, and 97 provided the cards.
I plan to do 94 more runs for a total of 194 runs.
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Post by kierovnick on Dec 15, 2008 5:07:55 GMT -5
Why 194 runs? I think you should round it up to 256. (100 runs.. wow.. you say what lvl are you? Well.. i am not the only one that wastes life playing this... ) |
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Post by General Veers on Dec 15, 2008 15:58:44 GMT -5
I'm level 25. If I do more than 194 runs, then I will advance to level 26 and my method of counting runs will change. It takes me two runs at the Boss level of Castle Gate, so what I did was plug in what percentage ( p) I was into the equation r=2p-7 to see what the first run of that percentage was and plug p into the other equation r=2p-6 to see what the second run for that percentage was. Afterward, I do another run to see if I remain the same percentage. If so, then I want to use the equation with an r-intercept of -7; otherwise, I want to use the equation with an r-intercept of 6. For example, during the run that I received a Critical's Card, I had 10% experience. I do another run and see that I remain at 10%, so I know to use r=2p-7 instead of r=2p-6. I plug it in and receive r=2(10)-7=20-7=13. That means that the run I enquired about was the thirteenth run. When doing innumerable runs (i.e. >=50 runs), use this equation: r=kp-kpi
which can be rewritten as
r=k(p-pi) where k is the number of times it takes to level up one percentage, p is the independent variable representing your current percentage, r is the dependent variable representing the number of runs, and pi is your initial percentage before you began testing. |
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Post by kierovnick on Dec 15, 2008 19:25:42 GMT -5
I just simply HATE math.
I'd rather think of something easier, like quantum electrodynamics and gravitational waves and leave the petrifying pluses and minuses to you.
And.. i won't even try to pretend that i understand anything you wrote and what does those equations mean or do.
For me procedure looks like this
1. Take a sheet of paper
2. Write what i find in every run
3. Add all i have wrote
4. Voila!
Do i really have to know how many monsters do i have to kill to gain 1% exp to know if i got card for killing boss?
Well.. but it's late and i may be missing something.
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Post by General Veers on Dec 15, 2008 20:09:57 GMT -5
I do what you do when I only have to do about ten runs or so, but if I do 100...
That was just basic algebra. If you think that's terrible, wait until you get into calculus (which isn't all that bad)...
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Post by kierovnick on Dec 16, 2008 3:40:11 GMT -5
it's a bit OT so this will be my last question... If You use sheet of paper only for countin runs <=10 then how in the world You knew, that Runs 13, 23, 29, 73, 90, and 97 provided the cards And a question in topic. Don't you think that those counts should give some simple number, thats more-less predictable? Like searching Criticals Card.. I have found 2 of them in 50 runs, You have found 1 in 25 runs. For me it was kinda clear that all in all it's 5% chance because it's closest nice, 'round', number. When You did another 100 runs with 6 Cards i have only noded because it confirmed my expectations, and now i am sure that's exactly 5%. Any further counts only will get us closer to conviction that it really is 5%. If You want to be completely sure, you would have to see game code or make some like 10000 runs or more. I am not signing up for this, if anyone would ask |
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