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Post by noodlesoup on Oct 26, 2008 20:38:51 GMT -5
Maybe I should. Did wikipedia help you any?
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 27, 2008 7:17:41 GMT -5
I see what you mean. It sounds like how an adder does it. If you actually make an on/off switch, we can make a comination lock thing, so that the thunder has to use 4+ different areas in the correct form to open........something
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Post by noodlesoup on Oct 27, 2008 8:00:09 GMT -5
That's kinda like powderfreaks disarm the bomb upload...but maybe something with one num pad and after gates would do...
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 27, 2008 12:16:14 GMT -5
... True, but I think our largest priotity is to equalise thunder (1 per second or something) we can make so much mor ewith that
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Post by noodlesoup on Oct 27, 2008 19:32:20 GMT -5
If two pixels of thunder hit head on it wont be a cancel out like in RL. One thunder pixel can cancel out one, two, three, and probably more thunder pixels. Which makes it impossible for a gate that uses that to be 100% reliable.
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 29, 2008 14:29:44 GMT -5
But if we can set up a reliable predictable system for thunder wiring, we can time logic gates to work better
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Post by noodlesoup on Oct 29, 2008 19:22:48 GMT -5
As long as we don't try to get 2 rows that are pretty equal in strength to cancel each other out, sure.
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Post by Sandmaster on Oct 31, 2008 18:19:37 GMT -5
Sucks that it does that though...At least they should BOTH cancel out
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Post by noodlesoup on Nov 1, 2008 2:51:05 GMT -5
I like adding a weak flow to a strong flow. Still canceling, but the strong flow is so much more powerful. Like in an inverter, I made one with a tiny battery. That led to a 2x2 metal square that pushed the 2 streams together, so the 2 weak streams used the cancel out method. One stream led to the turn around, and the other one led out, but it was a severely weakened version of an already weak stream.
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Post by powderfreak on Nov 5, 2008 17:06:14 GMT -5
its easy to weaken a stream to one or two dots, but if it involves clone it makes it a different story
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Post by Sandmaster on Nov 7, 2008 16:39:23 GMT -5
Best thing to do to translate thunder is use the checkerboard system, you can easily tranlate things without the need to waste metal
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Post by noodlesoup on Nov 8, 2008 3:22:43 GMT -5
translate? What do you mean by that..
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Post by powderfreak on Nov 8, 2008 9:32:15 GMT -5
hey cukoo man, if you make a full adder you cant do it how they are normally made. i tried to and it didnt work because of complications having to do with the gates blah blah blah. your gunna have to make your own full adder. which i suppose wouldnt be too hard.
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Post by noodlesoup on Nov 8, 2008 19:59:57 GMT -5
just make the NOR's output a really weak flow.. Use powderfreaks 'negative transistors' and sort of coil it up.
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Post by powderfreak on Nov 8, 2008 22:41:17 GMT -5
the negative transistor only works without clone though. but i think i missed out.. why do we need only a little bit of thunder in the first place?
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Post by noodlesoup on Nov 9, 2008 4:02:27 GMT -5
the negative transistor after a big coil will work perfectly with a weak battery. I tested it all, after a failed attempt at a binary to number converter, The new inverter that uses the - trans is super weak! IOW, successful! I think what would be great is a splitter that can be turned on and off again and again, and doesn't waste so much electric, so weak flows would have no problem.
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Post by Sandmaster on Nov 9, 2008 11:51:26 GMT -5
translate? What do you mean by that.. A translation (which I kinda based the term off wireworlds) is when you translate the final (or not final) inputs of thunder into what you want, like a numpad.
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Post by powderfreak on Nov 11, 2008 17:10:22 GMT -5
that would be an OR gate. as in blank or blank2 or blank3 or blank4 all make blank5 happen. but just the usual OR gate is much better than the checker patterned thing.
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Post by Sandmaster on Nov 12, 2008 20:00:35 GMT -5
The checker pattern is kind of a 'looks' thing, as it is just as useful as normal wiring.
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Post by noodlesoup on Nov 13, 2008 1:21:45 GMT -5
Are you talking about what they were calling "fiber optics"? Where the checkerboard pattern of metal moved the electric really fast?
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